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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago

Somebody got fed up they were only evaluated on "%of people who adopted AI". This feels very malicious compliance to me.

[–] xxce2AAb 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you had told me ten years ago that Microsoft would one day become one of our best allies in the attempt to persuade people to use open source for their own damn good, I would probably have sarcastically replied something like "yeah and next you'll be telling me somehow Oracle will sour people on centralized social media too."

...Huh. What a weird timeline.

godsdamn fucking CERN weasels jumping us on the wrong timeline

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 2 days ago

You can't make this shit up XD

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Okay. So how often does it turn itself back on if ever?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Whenever it is convenient for Microsoft, and when you least expect it.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 days ago

Given Microsoft's vision of user consent, after every update.

[–] Trebuchet@europe.pub 19 points 2 days ago

We don't know yet. My guess is something around 90 days so you're not able to fend off the beast forever.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess install it and see!

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

I'm good, thanks

[–] prism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 days ago

For a second I thought this was The Onion. This is so dark and invasive but I can't stop myself from laughing. It's like they don't even care to pretend anymore.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 18 points 2 days ago

Fuck everything about that.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 2 days ago

Don’t trust Microsoft with your data. In general, big tech companies are not trustworthy. Store your own data as much as possible.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am told that Apple, DropBox, etc. have done this for years, often in the name of "fighting CSAM" or "helping you organize your photos". https://support.apple.com/en-us/108795 Agree that its a very good reason not to touch corporate cloud services and to not let people take digital photos of your face even if they promise not to share them! I do not trust any company with physical assets in the USA not to be penetrated by three-letter-organizations and data brokers.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Apple does not look at your data. Several years ago they announced plans to scan for “harmful content” and quickly abandoned it when watchdogs called them out on the plan being a horrendous privacy violation.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/08/31/apple-provides-detailed-reasoning-behind-abandoning-iphone-csam-detection

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

It does look like the facial recognition in the support.apple.com link is opt-in!

[–] Reach_the_man@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

didn't they recent-ish have a "oops, you weren't supposed to see that we're making backups of your deleted photos, sry not sry" incident?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

Dont know about that incident, but that is different than scanning for csam which is different than scanning for faces which is different from feeding your images into an genAI training set.

You could think that they are doing all this anyway (which I think the AI only companies do btw, vut doubt the bigger ones do, esp Apple).

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

What if you don't have a camera?