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[–] guest123456@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Headline is kind of misleading. It requires a notice to be shown in a chat or interface that said chatbot is not a real person if it's not obvious that it's an LLM. I originally took the headline to mean that an LLM would have to tell you if it's an LLM or not itself, which is, of course, not really possible to control generally. A nice gesture if it were enforced, but it doesn't go nearly far enough.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

I think it's one of those perfect is the enemy of good kinds of situations. Go further is more complicated and requires more consideration and more analysis of consequences, etc. and that can take some time. But this is kinda no-brainer kind of legislation so pass this now while making the considerations on some more robust legislation to pass later.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 7 points 5 days ago (9 children)

What happened to Old California?

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[–] Ultraword@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

How do you enforce this

[–] vane@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

What if it's foreign AI ?

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Has anyone been able to find the text of the law, the article didn't mention the penalties, I want to know if this actually means anything.

Edit: I found a website that says the penalty follows 5000*sum(n+k) where n is number of days since first infraction, this has a closed form of n^2+n= (7500^-1)y where y is the total compounded fee. This makes it cost 1mil in 11 days and 1bil in a year.

reference

Yeah, this is an important point. If the penalty is too small, AI companies will just consider it a cost of doing business. Flat-rate fines only being penalties for the poor, and all that.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

Ok, this is a REALLY smart law!

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah for real, what does this mean exactly? All forms of machine learning? That's a lot of computers at this moment, it's just we only colloquially call the chat bot versions "AI". But even that gets vague do reactive video game NPCs get counted as "AI?" Or all of our search algorithms and spell check programs?

At that point what's the point? The disclosure would become as meaningless as websites asking for cookies or the number of things known to cause cancer in the state of California.

[–] Vince@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Any word on the 3 laws of robotics?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"AI" is already being used for genocide in palestine and probably elsewhere. Not to mention other "applications".

So no luck on the laws of robotics.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

As a Califirnian, I will do my job from here on out.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

This sounds about as useful as the California law that tells ICE they aren’t allowed to cover their face, or the California law that tells anyone selling anything ever that they have to tell you it will give you cancer. Performative laws are what we’re best at here in California.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Fun Fact:

Did you know, that cops are required to tell you if they're a cop? It's in the constitution!

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Weird how California keeps being the most progressive state in the US.

It's like being the best smelling turd in a toilet, but at least it's something.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

And the sky is blue

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