App? You mean the website with DRM and no interoperability?
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Instead of opening your 200MB web browser to see this page, can I interest you in this 200MB separate app to see this web page embedded in a data collection app?
looks inside
shitty frontend for the website
And requires access to your contacts and precise location for some reason.
Isolated dummy contacts and fake geolocation.
Yes, Chinese company I am the king, can't you see how my eScooter is parked at the royal residence 24/7?
when you use their "app" but it still asks you to install the app..
The app login launches the browser to handle the login, since the app is just a front end for the webpage.
looks inside website
It’s a Wordpress wrapper over an autogenerated CSS wrapper on their 2002 website written in HTML-1 and Perl. On Angelfire.
Amazon and LinkedIn. So annoying.
And the app is just the mobile website in a sandboxed web browser.
Yeah, but in the backend, they can now better track you.
Correct.
Because everyone needs 47 different versions of chrome installed in their phones :D
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Sandboxed, you say? So no adblock without a pi-hole-ish solution? Sold!
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I'm currently in a whole thing with the marketing team where we're basically forced to do an app version of our website because bookmarks just aren't done that well in mobile browsers. If you make the user install an app, then it'll be on their home screen and they'll be more likely to return to your site, whereas if you're web-only there's a chance they'll forget about you after the first visit.
It's going to cost us tens of thousands to develop the mobile app, $100/year for Apple's developer fee, and 30% of our subscription revenue, all whilst providing no actual technical benefits or making it easier for the user.
Apple and Google have made billions of dollars just off the back of nothing more than websites wanting to have their link appear on the mobile's home screen.
Just make your website a progressive web app, then the end user can install it just like a native app and you skip all the BS that a native app needs. And only one platform to support.
I don’t think Apple let you put PWAs in the App Store, and the install process for mobile is deliberately awkward for a regular user.
Also AIUI they also don’t allow push notifications for PWAs, which is another thing marketing teams are really keen to have. It’s truly a race to the bottom.
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Late stage capitalism. It's all rent seeking, all the way down.
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Normalize Progressive-WebApps
I block 99% of all trackers and social media.
I can't even order a fucking pizza online.
fuck this commercial world.
It's a fucking war zone...
24k sweet baby Jesus they want yer precious bodily fluids m8.
Wait, what app are you using?
I use duckduckgo browser. It has an App tracker blocker.
Lots of these trackers and advertisers will happily serve you literal malware. It’s not safe to browse unprotected.
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My bank wont let me open an account in the web browser. I either have to use their shitty banking app or go in person to a branch 10 miles away (they closed all the local branches)
Your bank sucks. Get a credit union.
how would a credit union help here?
They have websites that work usually. When tech has gone off the rails as it has because the tech bros are high on their own farts, being a bit behind the times and having a solid but boring online interface is a net positive
What ? Switch banks
As someone who uses a Linux phone, this becomes more and more true everyday
As someone that doesn't want to give my IMEI, location, and list of installed apps to anyone that asks, same here.
I consider your request to download your app as a hostile act.
- Panel 5 : Forced Desktop Mode "Hey, it's me, a totally different person!"
- Panel 6 : -> Panel 1.
Your link format needs to be parentheses () instead of curly brackets {}
Me: Where's the menu?
Waiter: "In our app."
Me: Guess I'll starve.
I've left two restaurants for the bullshit app-menu thing.
Fortunately haven't run across one since.
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Maybe it's not so much the business as the consumer. Commented before on travelling to a new client's shop and having the employees asking for an app to access their payroll.
Told the manager that our site would automatically optimize for phone, works great as-is.
"These people are not going to understand that unless they can download an app."
"No problem. I'll show everyone how to put a shortcut on their home screen. Done! I'll even write up directions for Android and Apple."
<manager shaking her head>
Understand, a load of these people were illiterate, embarrassed to need help filling out the online hiring docs.
If this was your experience as a business, would you not wrap your site in an app and push it? Plus, imagine the talk, "Yeah, site's OK but they don't have an app."
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Would you like a cookie?
Are you 18?
Can i send you notifications?
Can i gert your position?
Do you want to login with google?
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I'm about to switch to Ubuntu Phone soon anyways, basically no apps on that. I am ready for the peace of mind.
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Luckily you can set the browser into desktop mode and see everything super tiny (sometimes).
It's becoming more and more common to not even design a website for desktop
I can't count how often I go to a website on a 1440p screen and I can see only like three things at once. I fucking hate that shit
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