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[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Swedish, very pretty language

I would argue no one could choose one. A lingua franca is silently agreed upon over long periods of time. No committee sat down to make old Frankish the language of trade, modern French the language of diplomacy, and nowadays English the language of internet arguments.

If I had a magic wand though my vote is Klingon as well. Qa'plah.

Also note that script is historically mostly used for communication over large distances and times.

Historical scriptures (such as the bible) got transported across half the globe and copied and passed down for more than a thousand years. The scripture transcends both space and time.

If you only want to communicate with your neighbour, you don't need a lingua franca. Lingua franca is exclusively for writing down, and communicating over very large distances (such as the internet). In that case, no pronounciation is needed. So it is possible to have an abstract sign language that doesn't even have a standardized pronounciation.

This might sound absurd at first, if you never thought about it, until you realize that is how a lot of our information is already transported. There are a lot of sketches and visualizations of important data that are graphics, plots, charts, drawings, and such, that don't have a standardized pronounciation. The information is transported visually.

[–] 7empest@beehaw.org 5 points 6 days ago

French, we could all be a little more french when keeping our leaders on a leash

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 3 points 5 days ago

For who? As in I have to stop using English and start using the language or as in the world will all now just speak this language, no qualifications? If it's the former, probably something like Esperanto. If it's the latter, Lojban.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't, because everyone would just have to learn another new language if they learned English because it's the current one.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

Interlingua

[–] gray@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I would prefer some kind of sign language

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Exhausting to do for a long period, and requires a direct and deliberate sight line to work - there will be no shouting "fire".

It's actually been suggested the earliest languages could have been sign languages, since other apes don't fully voluntarily control their noises. I would guess the above are why we moved on.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I like this idea. Generally somewhat simplified, and no β€œpronunciation” needed if it were standardized.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

IIRC there still are dialects. Like, a gesture exists on a continuum of possibly trajectories, and one "speaker" might do it slightly differently from another.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, there’s different sign language β€œlanguages”, with other variations and slang. No perfect system. Plus words for things thar only exist in that area, like a schnitzel vs fried chicken. It’d still be great if we could codify a thorough set of words that are the same across the board for basics like bicycle, toilet, hospital, food, drink, face, leg, etc., things we all have generally in common, so that learning the area specific words would be all that is needed.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but like, something that's signed on the face might be signed higher or lower, even if it's the same variant of the same sign, for example. Kind of like how my "oo" might be different from your "oo" even if we're both saying "roof". And then maybe people start doing it on the neck...

I'm not sure it's any different or better in that way.

I understand that, which is why I suggested a codified standard for those "sames" we have in common so that they're all signed the same.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago

one that told me what that means. Seriously though an additional language or changing my base language?

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Lojban, it's culturally neutral, and that makes it all the more nice. Plus it's got an interesting punctuation style.

[–] Coopr8@kbin.earth 4 points 6 days ago

Hmmm, looking at Lojban in a bit more detail it sounds like the consensus is that the conative load of having to construct perfect logical specificity makes it suboptimal as a secondary intermediary language. If people are learning it as a second language it will be very hard to pick up.

[–] Coopr8@kbin.earth 4 points 6 days ago

This seems like a pretty solid option. I feel like this type of algorithmic language construction could be ripe for a big push forward, both in terms of constructing new languages and benchmarking them for use.

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

realistically, lojban, aui, mirad or kotava.

out of fictional languages, quenya, klingon, or the language of the culture from iain m. banks' books.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago
[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hmm, interesting. Do you have reasons, or was that just a random choice? I know pretty little about it. Actually, I'm not even sure if it's Turkic or Persian or something else.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

As piwakawakas said, Uzbek is a meme.

[–] piwakawakas@lemmy.nz 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Maybe wrong, but I believe this is from a language learning sub on reddit where people would ask what language they should learn without any other qualifiers. It was asked so frequently that people just started replying Uzbekistani.

Again, that's my memory of it, could be wrong.

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