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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (11 children)

IMO there's a good chance that Trump's second term will mark the end of the United States as a super power.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Speed running the collapse of an empire.

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[–] Soulg@ani.social 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's guaranteed because it's basically already happened. The ramifications just take time to be felt

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A has-been empire with a massive military and an aggressive desire to get back to the days when everyone respected them.

They'll probably decide, fear is as good as respect...

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

If only there were signs that a spoiled, deranged imbecile, pedofile who bankrupted so many companies that he ended up as a game show host wouldn’t be a great leader

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[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My wife said this tonight and it really hit me: China will be eating burgers and America will be eating soy

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[–] jstin86457@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago (6 children)

More generally, VOTERS killed farming in America.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And the people who pointed out this would happen were laughed at or told we were being overdramatic

Congrats republicans, you MAGA'd your way to the downfall of America. Maka America Garbage Again

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 days ago

Let's not give them all the credit. All the dumbass nonvoters deserve their fair share of responsibility too.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Customer retention is a huge thing. Customers are often hard to get and easy to lose. Piss them off and they'll find an alternative and they are not coming back. Trump has crippled us for decades.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But Trump knows that his base will still vote for him regardless of how his policies directly impact them.

Their desire for hate and oppression trumps (pun intended) whatever economic hardship they face.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Ok, ultra corrupt and all, but at least from environmental pov (especially water) killing soy where USA grew it en masse is a really good thing afaik.
It was too forced & unsustainable.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I dont know if country's in south America are filling the gap the US created, but if yes its probably much worse than farming in the US.

I once had the chance to hear a lecture from a Brazilian professor about how soy gets grown in Brasil and that shit was terrifying. Slavery like working conditions. Corruption, massive landgrabs, insane use of pesticides (they literally used to apply them with airplanes until it got banned due to health "concerns" (it actively destroys your health) for the civilians) and mono cultures all the way through. It was very informative, but fucking scary. Due to the fact that massive sizes of land are not really listed and nobody owns them. So farmers are literally creating their own documents, that say they own certain land, put them in a drawer with crickets, so the paper looks older than it is, go to the local government and surprise, they now own even more land.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What I don't get is how come this hasn't translated to more plentiful and cheaper soybeans here for the local market. You can't buy fresh soybeans at my local grocery store. You can only get them frozen and they're about four bucks a bag. Which isn't hugely expensive but it's not exactly cheap either.

[–] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Most soybeans grown in the US aren't food grade. Something like 95% of US grown soybeans are grown for livestock feed and soybean oil, not for human consumption - the GMO varieties they grow don't taste good as edamame and may not be safe to eat due to the high levels of pesticides used.

The soybeans China imports from the US are used for soybean oil and livestock feed, just like most of the US soybean crop. You might see cheaper jugs of soybean oil as a result of China bowing out of the US market, but you're not going to see cheaper green soybeans in your grocer's freezer.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 26 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Padme: this will mean cheaper soy products for U.S. domestic market, right?

I eat quite a bit of soy because I'm meatless.

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 days ago

This is why a responsible government is slow to change. Because move fast and break laws doesn't work for a democracy.

[–] h4lf8yte@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Another nail for the coffin of US society. Keep it going USA you can do it.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

All bailout money is earmarked for the corporations. We need to save the banks and the auto industry! Again!! /s

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