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    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 2 points 11 hours ago

    This is why you use Arch/Nix because the package is likely in their repos.

    The software probably still won't work, but you can waste more time on it.

    [–] nroth@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

    No, then you fix the code to work with your current system libraries and upstream the patch and version bump. This happens less on Arch, BTW ;-)

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

    As a non IT person I find Linux way better for installing software. The sort of apps non IT people use. The Software store has most of what I need. There rest I install the Windows way. From a website. Apps with a Linux version almost always detect and offer a Linux button to click to install. I wouldn't know what to do if that didn't work. Ditch that application I guess. My distros are pretty standard. Not hacked about. My apps are not too weird. I've been doing it this way for 14+ years. Never needed the CLI either.

    [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Glad im not the only one. Thats one thing that makes me go man, people will never leave windows for this, this is insanely complex to juat install a program.

    I find it fun to learn tho

    [–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Windows; have to search online for correct website, sift through ads to find the download, install while avoiding malware or extra programs that try to install alongside.

    Linux; Sudo pacman -S firefox. Done

    [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    This is true for some but it doesn't work like that in reality. Its much easier to install on windows vs linux, thats just how it is.

    Don't even get started on flatpak vs .Deb vs compiling vs snap...explaining that to a windows user makes them about lose their mind.

    Windows wins here. Click exe. Install. Done. AND the benefit of being allowed to install to a different hard drive, which linux will not allow without a ton of hoop jumping.

    Linux is great but let's not pretend windows doesn't do certain things much better.

    Also, not being able to see all your installed programs in one place because they are a blend of .Deb, snap, flatpaks, and compiled. It becomes a mess very quick if youre not careful.

    [–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    It does work like that in reality for almost all programs.

    For obscure stuff you can use yay or whatever other user repository you want.

    yay "program name". Done

    I've been doing this for years without issue.

    Also you can list all your installed programs. On Arch it's pacman -Q and yay -Qm.

    It's so easy a baby could do it. And apparently arch is supposed to be the most difficult.

    [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    You're forgetting, not every program in the world exists in your repository.

    When they do, great, but doesn't always happen. Make mkv for one, you have to get the linux version off their site custom.

    Also it seems you may be one of those people driving people away from linux saying normies are idiots and need to rtfm. Maybe work on that.

    [–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    See, your problems are of your own making. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/makemkv

    You are the only one driving yourself away from linux.

    You resort to personal insults, then get blocked. Want advice? Stick to vtech.

    if you use any modern distro installing most software is braindead easy. if you have to compile something yourself (which isnt that often) it can get quite funny because one hell of a lot can go wrong.

    [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

    Things have gotten so, so much better over the last 5 or 6 years.

    Flatpak, appimage, docker are just brilliant.

    I recently discovered nix and am in that honeymoon phase of trying to hit every nail with that hammer.

    [–] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Different packages having conflicting dependency versions needed for installation

    Edit: distrobox may be a viable solution to this

    [–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

    I at times have to install completely undocumented software. I love ccmake as it lists all available options. I guess there are other ways, but that makes it so easy.

    Then it's just a couple of days figuring out all necessary libraries.

    [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    No System Package

    Build System Package

    Gentoo makes it soo easy.

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    [–] JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

    God bless flatpak for these cases

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 76 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

    Gimme the repo and I'll get it to compile on Arch, latest testing packages as per 2025-10-20T22:12:00 on repo.30p87.de/archlinux

    [–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 100 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    What colors are your thigh highs?

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Black-white, preferably pink-white. I overcompensate a lot for boymoding.

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    [–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    damn. that's literally me.

    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    You didnt waste those hours, you learned something.

    [–] Deebster@infosec.pub 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Nothing that useful, apart from learning again that reading error messages properly can save you much pain.

    [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

    That’s a useful lesson to have stick

    [–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    I honestly can't remember the last time I've come across a package that I needed that so obscure that it wasn't found somewhere as at the very least an appimage, if not a flatpak. I haven't had to build from source in I don't even know how many years now.

    [–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

    General use package? Sure Specialized package to do something specific in a specific field? Good luck.

    I still have flashbacks of installing a c++ library which had to be transpired (or whatever the term is) to c# for another library to work, and having to go manually fix several function and type declarations manually to make it work. And we are talking about the golden standard library in the field...

    [–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Try making music on Linux. You'll be compiling obscure shit and tweaking configs all the time.

    [–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

    True. But I was coming at if from the perspective of an every day user coming from Windows. email, word processing, internet, etc... Even gaming and photo editing.

    The more professional the needed software gets, of course the more obscure it gets.

    What? Its something I do quite regularly.

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    [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (15 children)

    Both of these two cases are why Flatpaks are so attractive.

    [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 31 points 3 days ago

    Flatpaks are better than Snaps, but properly maintained dependency trees and SBOMs are best, by a wide margin.

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    [–] Meowie_Gamer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    When the dependencies need dependencies and then those dependencies need dependencies, the rabbit hole is endless!

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    [–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    no system package

    install distro that has it on a chroot

    [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah sure, I gonna setup everything again just because a single piece of software is not available on my pc

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    On Nixos

    No nixpkg Make flake

    [–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    All I see when I see this is "Linux isn't quite ready for prime time".

    Hopefully it gets less and less true.

    [–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

    I don't see that at all. This meme is referring to some niche application or to a person with their fingers all up in the nuts and bolts of their OS.

    It's common for beginner-friendly desktop distros to have Firefox and LibreOffice installed out of the box. For mainstream use that covers the vast majority.

    This isnt true. You only have this problem with rather obscure software (which was what I tried to install)

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 23 points 2 days ago

    Last week was the first time I think I've ever got a random Internet tarball to configure, make and make install. Program even did what it was supposed to too. I was amazed.

    [–] RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    If it’s in the AUR you can use a arch distrobox container

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