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[–] Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While in general the comparison is true, in the specific case of the Kirk circlejerk, people specifically were told to leave their shit outside the venue and TP paid for the cleanup.

[–] polle@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Even if being told, who drops their trash on the streets?

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They think they are better than other people. They don't see others as worthy of their consideration. “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash, when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?” - advisor to the President Stephen Miller

"Can't someone else do it?" - Homer Simpson

Ah, you're describing Moral licensing, and that's entirely plausible.

In this case it's "Littering is bad, but there's no trash cans here and I'm a generally good person so, just this once."

Except I suspect that "once" is really "every so often."

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I always thought it was "it's just one can/bag/bottle" when its clean, "it's full of trash, one more won't make a difference"

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Realistically it was similar in the BLM protests of 2020.

While Trump & Fox were telling demented grandmas that black people were burning entire cities to the ground, the reality was very tame.

Only real disruptions came from police provoking and illegally attacking protestors.

[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

I literally watched a cop throw a blast ball in 2020 and then subsequently use their own actions to declare a riot

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 173 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe? Absolutely liberals care more about their communities. Part of conservatism is that you don’t give a single shit about anyone but yourself. Maybe your kids. But that’s only if they’re straight and cis.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The right-wingers also aren't from the place they have these rallies at usually. They drive all over the country and get bussed around for these events to make the movement seem more popular. But when there are large progressive/left protests or events, they are mostly actually from that area so they care more about not making a mess.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Both things make sense together - people care more about not making a mess were they live than were they don't and left-wingers also think about others rather than just themselves - "do to others what you would like them to do to you" - which in this case means don't leave your trash behind to dirty up the place were others live, whilst rightwingers are all about what's best for themselves and in a place were they don't live simply dropping their trash on the ground and leaving it to dirty up somebody else's streets is less hassle for them personally than carrying their trash to the nearest trash bin.

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[–] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 140 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Conservatives think destroying the community is a flex.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

conservatives think anything is a flex as long as they can CO-OPT it into thier realm, they dont have a single belief they hold on to, and quite fickle, today its bad bunny, tommorow, its something else.

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago

I dont agree with leaving the trash there, but I understand it. It would have been confusing with all the trash already gathering there.

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I believe Hillary said it best. Deplorables.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Animals. That trash is how their brains must be.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

MAGA is white trash. …And pick me trash. To be fair. I wish we could just split the country at this point. Irreconcilable differences.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wish we could just split the country at this point.

Literally what the controlling donor-class want more than anything.

The more we're divided, the less chance we have of making unified actions against corporate power and capital.

Do you think they will stop at left-versus-right? Why do you think there's so much infighting within left and right groups? Agitators are already in our midst driving up contention with rage-bait politics and they amplify the worst positions on both sides of every issue. They want every single American to be alone, inside their home, browsing a shopping feed.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Well most of project 2025 has been implemented so unless we do something soon we are trapped in a christofacist oligarchy for the foreseeable future. The cage is closing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Most conservatives don't actually want the outcomes from Project 2025 either, they're just WWE fans cheering for their side, they would switch in a heartbeat if the narrative changed, or if they started getting hurt by the policies that will strip them of healthcare, benefits and wages, and most importantly, vices.

They are not capable of looking down the road at what their choices will lead to, their minds don't even work that way and we can't make them work that way no matter how bad we wish they would get smarter or listen to reason and logic.

We have to understand that conservatives broadly are not some overpowered force trying to crush us all, they're just our population's segment of armed toddlers. They think 2-dimensionally, they don't reason or use logic, they react to feelings and stories. We could absolutely take advantage of this and take them back, we could run this whole show if we understood that preaching to them about moral inconsistency or empathy or ideology is never going to work, that they only respond to what they immediately see and feel. The right has been very good about supplying them with these WWE stories with heroes and villains, meanwhile the left is STILL using the same rhetoric and lecturing thinking it will make a dent.

We could change the course of this country if we all got a lot more social, a lot more emotionally intelligent, and a lot less afraid of engaging with people we've been taught to fear and hate.

I know because I was raised conservative, I know how they think and feel and I have changed a good number of people with patience and emotional engagement.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

You can tell who lives there.

[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

[–] Hellotypewriter@retrolemmy.com 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In my town you couldn’t even tell there had been a protest there minutes after.

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Allegedly true of country music fans too. That Venn diagram isn’t quite a circle, but it’s close.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Death Metal fans are percieved as incredibly violent, but actually are usually super nice.......unless you give them a reason to get super violent. Then they're super violent.

But after they get done lynching you, they'll stop for coffee and tea and discuss politics and comunity news.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The march didn't go to central ave but yes there were clean up crews

[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 15 points 3 days ago

Yeah fake pics.

Fuck Trump though.

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"Maybe liberals care more about their community"

Im sorry, im so fuvking confused.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's just meme tier bullshit. Conservatives played this game for decades with every liberal protest imaginable.

Random out of context imagines with captions about the identity group being insincere because trash

Ah, I thank you for clarity

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How do you know that all on no kings protestors are liberals?

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