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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 97 points 2 days ago (8 children)

This would have been a completely out of touch thing to say 10 years ago.

To be saying it today is a choice. It's willing and malicious. She's just provoking people deliberately because the response is what she's after.

Ignore her

[–] brennesel@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 day ago

Some of her statements are even more out of touch:

[...] even somebody who works with us who’s willing to spend $40 million, they’re compromising also [...]

And as a European this sounds crazy to me:

I haven’t cooked in 30 years, but [young people] love it.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

Or maybe it's virtue signaling to peers/investors rather than punching down for the sake of agitating the poors. Regardless, it's definitely somewhere between sociopathic and malicious.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I guess I'd believe this if all the hard data didn't prove it wrong.

Maybe I should become a conservative so I don't have to bother with hard data anymore and I can just let an almost deceased obese felon rapist tell me what to think.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 117 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CEO of a company that is actively making it harder for people to afford housing.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago

These jokes write themselves.

[–] spykee@lemmings.world 41 points 1 day ago

Stupid fucking bitch.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

By boomer standards I'm lower middle class as an engineer. I could theoretically afford a kid or two and a small house, and with two incomes we could even do that while having occasional vacations and retirement savings. You know, the sort of life that so long as you didn't really fuck up you could afford as a boomer, but several years younger than me as well.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Boomers needed houses 50 years ago.

Gen X needed apartments 30 years ago.

Now you need a nice Transit Van.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago

Payment's about the same.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Cheap RV living on YouTube is quite popular because people are choosing to live in their vehicles and the freedom to be anywhere.

When I moved, I choose to live in my car for several months. It’s not too bad.

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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I did, still poor. I get half my meals for free (food service) still poor. I split rent with 4 other people to the point where my bills are the lowest they've ever been in my life, still poor. Still poor, still poor and not making enough and everything keeps getting more expensive.

[–] NRay7882@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Let's sink some yachts.

[–] XiELEd@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stop buying Starbucks coffee

Ah shit, here we go again...

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

That's a good way to get a McDonald's coffee express delivered to the face scalding hot.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 17 points 1 day ago

Those teeth look primed to be turned into a necklace.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have no idea who this person is nor why I would possibly give a shit what she has to say about anything.

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[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Holy shit that was tough to finish that article. There are so many quotes from this idiot that are just fucking nonsense. Here are my top three:

“It is just as tough,” Liebman exclusively tells Fortune. “Back then, it was more difficult in some ways because you had less neighborhoods that people would live.”

Plus, she says, never has there been more opportunity at young people’s fingertips—not just when it comes to inventory on the market: “If you’re not afraid to show off your skill set, and you try and find yourself an opportunity where you’re going to be appreciated and where people are going to allow you to expand your horizons and hopefully add value to the company that you’re at, I think it’s an unbelievable time.”

“It’s not that expensive,” she adds. “So if you’re willing to move around, which people are now, I think that there are definitely opportunities out there… You’re going to secure a much, much less expensive apartment than if you are insistent on being in the West Village.”

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 23 points 2 days ago

I'm about to list my house for 20k more than I purchased it 3 years ago. When it goes on the market there will only be two other houses in the same price range (~100k range, with mine in the middle).

What she's saying is so insanely out of touch. That's a 70+ year old house and my elderly millennial ass could just afford it after years of saving

I won't be recomping the improvements I made to the house, that 20k is basically going to the realtors lol

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

When they show you how stupid they are, believe it and remember it. The myth of meritocracy has to die.

[–] MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 55 points 2 days ago
[–] hark@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

"900 corporate staffers were also laid off as part of a $1 billion restructuring following six straight quarters of sales decline.".

The idea that spending on coffee or avocado toast or whatever single food/drink item is causing a widespread drop in home ownership is idiotic enough, but this absolute moron managed to pick something with hard evidence of declining sales.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I agree that buying your first home takes some sacrifices. But the sacrifices even 20 years ago were significantly less than they are now, let alone 40 or more years ago. I would hope that someone in her position would understand that it's not about saving $5 or $10 a day on Starbucks, or even buying a cheaper phone. The disparity between income and home price is just completely different.

Median household income in the US in 1980: $21000
Median home price: ~~$47000 (2x)~~
Edit: $62000 (3x) is probably more accurate.

Median household income in the US in 2000: $42000
Median home price: $163000 (4x)

Median household income in the US in 2020: $67000
Median home price: $327000 (5x)

It doesn't take a genius to see the discrepancy here. That's a lot of fucking Starbucks coffees to not buy to make up the difference.

Note: I'm using US numbers because of the context.

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[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I don't care who the fuck she is or what the fuck she says or why anybody is quoting her. Remove her from my oxygen source.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

I want to punch every rich motherfucker who blames it on coffee purchases in the neck.

[–] Catalyst_A@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

i was alive 30 years ago. No the fuck its not.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rich idiot says dumb shit is not news.

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[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah.. I read the entire article, SOME of what she's said isn't too off the mark.. Starting out with roomates and scrimping at first.. but crabbing that someone buys coffee? Seriously?

Naah sis, you're missing the main point.. and that is percentages of income needed to get into a home today are multiples of what they were when you were starting out. Fuck that shit. Also, housing stocks were better and it had less to do with the number of units on the market, but that the market wasn't dominated by equity firms and REITs.

My biggest beef with housing was once they put the "no money down" equation into the mix, the prices soared.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

Booo! Get some new material!

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

We should make an initiative where we collect donations and sends tons of maneur to theresidencies of rich people.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Coffee is not the problem, CEOs are

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago

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