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What are your ideas, that if you could implement would likely stop our species from warring so much?

I'm asking for a reasonable ones, but if not - at least make them funny :P

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You'll have to find a way to eliminate greed

Edit: or no people so you have nobody to start wars

[–] Tamhenk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Humans need to evolve to a state where love, compassion and being helpful to others is ingrained. At the moment we're just clever beasts.

Sadly though, I don't think we have enough time.

[–] Ignacio@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A death match between the presidents / prime ministers of the rival countries. The country of the winner of that match will win the war, and the country of the loser has to deal with the following consequences.

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[–] Reliant1087@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Universal basic income, universal food and shelter and education.

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An unfortunate combination of somehow achieving a post-scarcity, non-capitalist society with robust resource and population control.

But people are greedy and want "freedoms" that run counter to this.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

There is no solution to that. It is a cold, hard reality of living on a planet with limited resources. We all might hate war (and for good reason, obviously), but it isn't like animals don't fight for territory either. Just happens that humans found a way to make it a few orders of magnitude more extreme.

[–] encync2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Put everyone in a time-out until they can play nicely with the other children (because let's face it, a lot of them are acting like children)

[–] JunctionSystem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The only way to permanently end war is universal omnicide.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did you watch Shiny Happy People? Apparently Christian fundamentalists believe the world population can fit into Jacksonville, FL. There's the answer. Anyone who wants to start a war has to go live in Jacksonville. Build that wall!

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey now, we just elected a woman Democrat as mayor in Jacksonville (and it is generally blue leaning over the past two decade juxtaposed with nearby towns and areas around it).

But I understand the image problem, even man-baby DeSantis lived here over in Ponte Vedra Beach, which is a carved out slice of the Jax area beaches that is in a different county (last century politics, money, private beach club).

[–] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah. I live in Dallas so I'm familiar with the image problem. Everyone thinks we're in Texas.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Abolish Money and increase global distribution of goods aka socialism.

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[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I won't be satisfied as long as that guy has more ponies than me. And he's most definitely NOT my friend.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

That's alright. That guy won't be in your shard. You'll have the most pony friends ever.

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[–] arcrust@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Eradicate fear.

Fear of losing power. Fear of "them". Fear of going to hell because you didn't convert someone. Fear of lost resources.

It all boils down to fear. The problem is that fear is contagious. It's easier to convince someone to back your side if you make them afraid vs hopeful.

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[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Put the ones in charge to the front line.

[–] DefenderOfTheWeak@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The only way to end all wars is for all people to fully control the instinct of domination with rational mind. It's all about education and self-awareness. Making people rational creatures

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[–] Alpagu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think the solution is to have enough renewable energy for all of humanity.

[–] nafri@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

this is a bit grim but global-wide information control that shreds any information which will help the growth of the idea of overly patriotic but less enough to not kill the domestic culture (but i think, not necessarily always telling the truth). that will also promote the sense of global village and transnationalism. and relocate the idea of war to other rivalries like on sports or something, idk.

basically limit the free will without showing it. I can't think if it's gonna happen or this even possible.

[–] DaDragon@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well effectively, it would entail an all-encompassing global spying machine that gathers all data possible, and imprisons anyone who deviates from the expected baseline. (Wouldn’t end well for me either.) You have to remove most individuality to remove reasons for fighting. And even if you imprison 999 false leads to capture just one instigator, that’s the only way to ‘guarantee’ a fairly high level of security.

So what I’d say we need is 1984 or Мы levels of oversight to have any chance of curtailing conflict for good.

EDIT: oh, and re-education. Lots and lots of re-education.

[–] Darkonion@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

No hands for anyone. Possibly no feet too. Only the cooperative will survive.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Simple. We make war illegal.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

If you don't stop the violence I'll... I'll have to enforce the law with violence

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Establish a global trade network in a way that everyone is completely dependent on everyone else.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Capitalist trade necessitates competition & states, even if you ignore how violent setting up that trade network was, the need for competition to push profits up means you need to put down local competition or regulations (e.g the US (where the biggest companies reside) need to coup democratic leaders that get in the way of profits, such as the Iranian coup, etc), but people don't like that so you end up with counter revolutions which puts forces hostile to the US in power, and eager to give the US a bloody nose (but mostly through proxy wars).

And that's without even getting into the trade creating Cheneys who want war because it is profitable.

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[–] aeternum@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Peace, by force

[–] _kato@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Make the old men fight each other and soilder just refusing to follow orders that seem stupid

[–] JesusTheCarpenter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It would take way more but the first step it would be to remove religions. And not only because most are not peaceful in principle but also because some religions see others as a target. Even small difference in beliefs could spark a vicious and long standing conflic, like Catholics Vs protestants.

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