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Looks like it works.

Edit still see some performance issues. Needs more troubleshooting

Update: Registrations re-opened We encountered a bug where people could not log in, see https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3422#issuecomment-1616112264 . As a workaround we opened registrations.

Thanks

First of all, I would like to thank the Lemmy.world team and the 2 admins of other servers @stanford@discuss.as200950.com and @sunaurus@lemm.ee for their help! We did some thorough troubleshooting to get this working!

The upgrade

The upgrade itself isn't too hard. Create a backup, and then change the image names in the docker-compose.yml and restart.

But, like the first 2 tries, after a few minutes the site started getting slow until it stopped responding. Then the troubleshooting started.

The solutions

What I had noticed previously, is that the lemmy container could reach around 1500% CPU usage, above that the site got slow. Which is weird, because the server has 64 threads, so 6400% should be the max. So we tried what @sunaurus@lemm.ee had suggested before: we created extra lemmy containers to spread the load. (And extra lemmy-ui containers). And used nginx to load balance between them.

Et voilร . That seems to work.

Also, as suggested by him, we start the lemmy containers with the scheduler disabled, and have 1 extra lemmy running with the scheduler enabled, unused for other stuff.

There will be room for improvement, and probably new bugs, but we're very happy lemmy.world is now at 0.18.1-rc. This fixes a lot of bugs.

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[โ€“] LolaCat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Just signed up and everythings working well for me!

[โ€“] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Wow - we have a new defniition of 'awesome dudes'.

Thank you.

[โ€“] wilberfan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

YOU'RE DOING GOD'S WORK, SON! Keep up the good work! ๐Ÿ†

[โ€“] ckskate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Awesome to see the transparency and some tech details of what these updates entail! Iโ€™m loving the bug fixes 0.18 brought too

[โ€“] JeanMiaouss@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Hey, thanks for your hard work, just want to let you know that login doesn't work for me in incognito mode or on any app.

[โ€“] ArgonautVehicle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Favicon seems to be missing now. Just a heads up! @ruud@lemmy.world

[โ€“] liaizon@social.wake.st 7 points 2 years ago

@ruud oh wow 0.18.1 fixed the broken federation/webfinger issue!!! this is great news

[โ€“] obinice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Thank you from England for all the hard work AND for giving such interesting details, especially as it will encourage others to set up their own instances, and help them cross similar hurdles!!

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

To everyone having a login problem, it seems that resetting the password solves the issue! Maybe this means that the upgrade corrupted the stored hashes somehow?

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[โ€“] Yaxoi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm curious; is this instance pysically running on a local private server somewhere or in the cloud in some data center?

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[โ€“] darkbaron202@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

thank you for letting us know behind-the-scene stuffs.

me myself is a sysadmin and really like story of successfully scaling up servers. very satisfy to hear.

once again, thank you!

Thank you for the hard work! Enjoying Lemmy.world quite a bit. :)

[โ€“] WigglingWalrus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

๐ŸŽ‰ Great work!

[โ€“] monstad@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

was struggling for a while, but it seem to be nice and fast now.. thank you!

[โ€“] Anaralah_Belore223@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The update is good. Just needs more troubleshooting

Trying to edit this comment

Editing took between 4 to 11 seconds. on https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyworld

Meanwhile, on other communities... 0.5 to 1 seconds

[โ€“] BitOneZero@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Edit still see some performance issues. Needs more troubleshooting

Federation overheard is putting a lot of load on servers. Creating one task for every single post, comment, and vote in RAM-only queue.... pending changes: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3466

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[โ€“] AndreTelevise@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's faster now, and we finally have buttons for rich text features! Congratulations!

Update: upvotes are a bit broken and weird right now, I need to refresh every time to see that I upvoted. But that's really the only issue I see right now.

[โ€“] Secret300@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

we created extra lemmy containers to spread the load. (And extra lemmy-ui containers). And used nginx to load balance between them.

Had no idea nginx did that. There's so much I need to learn

[โ€“] erik1984@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the hard work on the upgrade! Much appreciated although I'm only using the web version (not needing specific client apps). Lemmy World feels quite 'snappy' when browsing now.

[โ€“] FranconianBiker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Lemmy seems pretty slow. I wonder how many more people have joined here now.

[โ€“] varnia@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Updated Jerboa. Thanks for your efforts, transparency and insights.

[โ€“] Grangle1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Login problem is fixed for me, yay! Back on Jerboa and here on the browser! Thanks for your hard work and for putting up with me, lol.

I'm getting network errors that aren't allowing me to actually view content on Jerboa right now, though, but at this point I'm assuming it's a Jerboa thing and not a problem with the instance.

[โ€“] guyman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Lot of network errors, but it could be jerboa.

[โ€“] CartographerOne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I'm sure there will be bugs for others but it's smooth and bug free for me. Thanks so much for the devs and contributors.

[โ€“] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Having login issues on the browser. Not logging in at all. But on liftoff where I was already logged in, everything seems to be working.

[โ€“] nico@r.dcotta.eu 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Have you considered running your Lemmy instance on more than a single machine? If it is possible to run two lemmy containers anyway (ie, lemmy is not a singleton), why not run them on separate machines? With load balancing you could achieve a more stable experience. It might be cheaper to have many mediocre machines rather than a single powerful one too, as well as more sustainable long-term (vertical vs horizontal scaling).

The downside would be that the set-up would be less obvious than with Docker compose and you would probably need to get into k8s/k3s/nomad territory in order to orchestrate a proper fleet.

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[โ€“] WeAllShineOn97@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My first comment on here! Thanks for creating this, this looks fantastic and a great Reddit alternative. Keep up the great work.

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[โ€“] EmielBlom@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nice, really liking the update! Some questions about development for the fediverse: Is the code for running Lemmy written by one or person or a smome core team?

Is there any decision making process as to which features will be worked on in the next release or which bugs to prioritize?

In theory what would happen if the original developers started making changes that other people don't agree with? Would we get a fork then where servers have to choose to adopt it or not?

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[โ€“] Mishaye@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Thanks! Seems to be working fine so far.

[โ€“] Tontoz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Really like seeing posts like this that explain what's going on. Thanks for all the hard work!

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