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What the title says. I think there is still a long way for that to happen but i've been hopeful. What do you think?

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[–] alvaniss@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It depends on how many content creators and important community members will be ready to move from centralized social networks to here

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

No, but it's a step in the right direction to rolling back Web 2.0 and the utter shitshow it's turned into.

Open protocols and no single company in charge is like IRC, newsgroups and so on, before we traded it all in for a nicer UI and handing all our data to future billionaires.

It needs to be able to evolve though. IRC could have become Discord, but we just abandoned it. Watch that do the same as everyone else over the next few years, as all those venture capitalists start asking for their money back.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Only if a site like join-Lemmy.org can be promoted on every instance and actually direct you to a server that isn’t overloaded and is fully federated.

Right now, it directs you to sadly overloaded servers that are terrible choices.

If that doesn’t happen, then some big instance needs to scale up with its popularity and be well funded by someone for some reason.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes I do. What I am looking for is federated/web3 replacements for Instagram, and some kind of well encrypted, decentralized messenger app

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[–] Electronium@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see the internet just going back to the way it was in the early '00s. It's a fresh start to say the least.

[–] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That would be nice but I'm doubtful. Too many people make far too much money from centralization.

[–] normalmighty@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I think it'll be a balance. Less 90s internet and more ~2010 internet. Mainstream platforms will stay big, popular and centralised, but the internet has billions of users now. There can be massive thriving networks of people doing their own thing on platforms like Lemmy at the same time as millions of people flock to Twitter or Facebook or whatever.

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[–] Smartboystupid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, I don’t think it will grow as big as the other socials. Because for the average Joe Normie it is way too complicated to understand what the fediverse is, and where they should sign up or post. In other words: the entry barrier is substantially higher than the competition.

However with simplified browsers like Wefwef it makes things a bit easier, and I do think it can grow reasonably big. Maybe in the future when there is more information available and the fediverse has matured.

[–] MrFlamey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I don't think it will happen until there are enough informed users, unique information and welcoming communities that create a strong reason to come here. Currently it's quite nice and these things do exist to an extent, but due to the relatively small size the communities feel much less bustling than those on Reddit and I don't think most people we see any advantages to use Lemmy over Reddit. Lemmy will gradually grow, but unless Reddit completely implodes I doubt there will be a significant enough migration here that we would be able to call it mainstream.

[–] Taokan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I honestly think it's unlikely. Not because Lemmy is bad or that the tech couldn't handle it. But Lemmy isn't really profit driven - there's no way to really build a moat without defederating, and therefore no capitalist reason to advertise and grow a server - all that would do is increase infrastructure burden and then leave the server owner trying to figure out how to recoup the cost. And if they start running ads, charging fees or running people nuts with merchandizing, that growth they paid for is likely to scatter to other servers offering the same access to content.

So if growing tall isn't likely, what about growing wide? Well, maybe. I'm still extremely new to Lemmy World, but from what I can tell to run a Lemmy instance you have to have or be willing to learn a basic understanding of Linux, and be willing to charitably donate your hardware/bandwidth to the public. That might work out, or that might be constrained either by freeloaders scaling faster than donors, or the learning curve proving too much a barrier to entry. Wikipedia worked out, but it still has to occasionally prod its users to remind them it needs money to keep afloat.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

See "Threads" from meta it tries to go on the fediverse

[–] LightDelaBlue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Mastodon with the meta thing no thanks .lemmy ? Maybe but for that we need more instance . At least local one for each country .

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