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A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse.

However, people also say that it will help get ActivityPub and the Fediverse go more mainstream and say that corporations don't have that much influence on the Fediverse since people are in control of their own servers.

What a lot of posts have in common is that they want some kind of action to be taken, whether it'd be mass defederating from Threads, or accept them in some way that does not harm the Fediverse as much.

What actions can we take to deal with Threads?

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am kinda curious to see how federating with it would actually work. I.e. what kind of content would actually end up in my "All" view, the usual facebook trash or actually interesting stuff? And would there maybe be interesting communities on it?

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There would be interesting communities for sure, but your All feed would quickly turn into a Threads feed.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Can Lemmy.world go read-only? I think the biggest threat that can actually be handled is a bunch of shitty Facebook users making shitty, angry comments in lemmy.world threads. letting Threads read and display Lemmy.world content, but not comment would solve this.

There are other important threats from Facebook, but this one can actually be solved.

[–] count0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Should 'we' do?"

Nothing. If people and/or communities coming in through Threads are engaging in good faith, cool, more nice folks to have a community with. People/communities engaging in bad faith get blocked/defederated as is already common practice (and seems to be working outstandingly already, looking at average quality of posts and discourse "here" as compared to the "big platforms").

When Meta/Threads is hosting communities I like to see/be a part of, I'll figure out how to subscribe/integrate those. Besides that, they're free and welcome to run echo chambers in their own instances and communities, I don't see how any of that would ever show up on my feed.

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[–] Strolleypoley@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Threats is a better name for that data collecting pos.

[–] luckystarr@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In order to compete in user experience we need to up our game. We need to set up communities which collect, categorize and funnel user requests upstream. These features should be focused on:

  • reducing frictions like unclear UI, broken links, etc.
  • improving usability of the various web frontends (the one from Lemmy, kbin, etc.)
  • collecting bug reports and making sure they will be fixed

This is meant to be a proxy between average users and tech enthusiasts who know how to do pull requests or open GitHub issues. Moderators of these communities would do it for them. This would enable us to gain visibility in the needs of the users.

This is only a part of what needs to be done, but I think this can be done quickly.

[–] Ech@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Lemmy doesn't need to compete. Hell, it can't compete. It's an open-source platform developed basically as volunteer work. Meta (and Threads) has millions of dollars and massive teams behind it.

Thankfully, we don't need Meta. We just need to do what we can to resist. The best we can hope for and what we should aim for is to limit the impact/damage Threads will have on our segment of the Fed. How to do that, I'm not sure exactly, but my first instinct is to block off anything corporate. Any interaction at all is basically just asking monied interests to take over.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

Don't worry. Elon's gonna sue and Zuck will quietly shut Threads down. /s

I've been reading blog posts taking various positions and remain undecided.

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