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I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change instances if need be, and I feel many share that sentiment.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If meta wants to data farm lemmy, what's to stop them from hosting a 1 user instance, being federated with lemmy, and....? Profit?

I'm not worried about information going that way, it's an open source deal, information is already going that way.

As for getting more content from another instance? I'm not against it, as long as it's regulated, and at risk of defederation if it gets out of hand

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Any admins of Lemmy.world reading this? Can we tag them?

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (14 children)

This is like saying "my email provider should block all emails from Gmail".

And they can hoover your data right now. Like, you think bots aren't spidering the site already? It's a public website.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I actually think this demonstrates the exact problem. The reason you can't do that at the email level is because Google has taken over the entire email space. Ideally, we don't let threads do that.

Nowadays you have services like Outlook blocking emails Tutanota for "spam protection". I'd really rather threads not get so big that they can start dictating how the Feduverse operates in that fashion.

As I said down thread, the easiest way to get information with the structure of activity pub is to have a bunch of users and that is because the only way information gets transmitted to a server is by caching it based on post interactions.

That is exactly what millions of thread users in the Fedeverse would accomplish.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Would email be better if you couldn't send/receive emails from people with Gmail accounts?

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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Threads will kill the Fediverse and chuds welcome it with open arms.

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Threads will kill the Fediverse...

How?

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Flooding it with minions memes

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[–] Icaria@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I thought Threads was supposed to be a competitor to twitter? I don't understand how they'd even integrate with Lemmy instances. I'm here to see posts from boards/forums/subs, not from specific people. Would posts from random Threads user profiles start showing up on the main page?

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Fuck anything and everything about Meta. Don't let them near this.

[–] QaspR@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I am in agreement on this one.

[–] Rognaut@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I will absolutely change instances to one which has defederated from FB.

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm planning the same.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not worried about Threads joining the fediverse. They can't even properly implement hashtags and trending topics, which already puts them far behind Mastodon and X.

Also, how would users on a microblogging platform be able to interact with a Lemmy instance? I'm a bit confused about how ActivityPub works in that respect.

The 'they can farm our data' argument is a bit moot when Lemmy is already publicly accessible, and it makes us no better than Spez if we are trying to combat people for 'data scraping"

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[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

What public info could they gather? My IP?

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