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how to block meta from mastodon (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by downpunxx@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] Cras@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Unpopular opinion but defederating Meta is a terrible idea. What are people thinking will happen? Allow them to federate and you'll have mastodon users able to view and interact with posts from Threads without needing to be concerned about ads or tracking, without giving over any more control of privacy than they would to any other fediverse instance, and without needing to possess accounts homed within the Meta infrastructure.

Defederate them, and anyone who wants to interact with anyone on threads will most likely need to maintain a presence on both and handover more personal data to Meta than they otherwise would.

Defederating is actively hostile to fediverse users.

[–] reclipse@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago

Some instances will federate and some will block them. It doesn't have to be all one or the other.

[–] 332@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree with you.

Instances can defederate from meta at any point they choose, should it become necessary in the future. Until then, it is a huge boon to the more decentralized parts of the fediverse to get content from where all the "normies" are, as well as giving more visibility to non-meta instances and giving said normies a road to the less data-hungry parts of the network.

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[–] books@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Has lemmy.world blocked meta?

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As far as I could tell they haven't signed the anti meta pact so probably not.

[–] frogfruit@discuss.online 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That site is really bringing me back to my Myspace days

[–] books@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yeah, for real.. wtf is up with that page?

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personality

[–] books@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If personalities were bumper stickers.... this would tell me that they were a 13 year old girl who just learned html.

Or... 'don't take me serious!'

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you write screeds about the woke mob and women with blue hair too?

It's not normal, you're completely right about that. It doesn't matter. Everything does not have to look like the corporate internet and frankly advocating that everything on the internet wear a suit and tie to be "taken serious" (your words) is something you should re-examine. Spaces with different cultures are good and having a kneejerk reactionary intolerance to them is bad.

[–] books@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's bull.

If you can't see the relevance of looking professional than I don't know what to tell you. It's important.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you also think that workers shouldn't have tattoos?

Real question. Because up until a few years ago that was part of being "professional".

The definition of professional is just a social construction. One created by and perpetuated by the bourgeoisie through their corporations. You can make the decision to discard it, and by doing so you can embrace a vast multicultural way of presenting things. Is some of that going to be strange and foreign to people outside of each culture? Yes it is. Is there anything wrong with that? Nah.

[–] books@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

If I was on trial for murder, or something equally as serious, I'd want my attorney to look like an attorney.

I don't care how good of an attorney they are, if they don't look like one, I don't think I'd hire them because it's not what I think that matters, it's what the jury or the judge thinks.

It's the same for a pledge online. If you have little hearts flowing over your text and shitty design, it doesn't matter what I think. It's what everyone else thinks.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

threads will never federate.

[–] f4te@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

i'll join the voices saying this is bad for the fediverse, and bad for users in general. there are LOTS of normie users who are joining threads who will be shut off from learning about all the cool other servers if everyone blocks them. this will mean users who want to interact with them need to sign up on Threads, which is what we don't want.

what we want is that users on Threads see other servers, learn that they're better, and migrate over.

don't block Threads, show them how much better we are.

[–] necrophagist@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yup this is dumb and misguided

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The entire fucking point of fediverse is that corporations can be disconnected when they try to come knocking. You're literally arguing against the reason the platform exists to begin with.

[–] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this is not the point of the fedeverse, this is you're own angry brain trying to force the general public to agree with you without wanting to explain to them the whole situation.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given that I've been here for three years and you've been here 20 days I'm going to say I know a little bit more about it.

[–] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

appeal to authority, classic.

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[–] MoiraPrime@lib.lgbt 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're missing the bigger picture. If threads is federating with the fediverse, then that means Zuck is downloading and indexing a copy of everyone else's posts OUTSIDE of threads.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why can't Meta (or any other shady company/ organization) do that now anyway. Just set up an innocent looking server, populate it with a small number of accounts to make it look legitimate, federate and start sucking in data. Do you really think every single federated server is run by people with hearts of gold and pure intentions? Your shit is already getting harvested, there's no stopping that. They don't need Threads if all they want is to index posts.

Meta sucks, I get it, but I think a lot of the fear Threads is generating is way overblown.

[–] MoiraPrime@lib.lgbt 1 points 2 years ago

I've been on the fediverse since 2017. Anyone who's dealt with running an instance knows how much of a pain in the ass dealing with huge monolithic instances is.

Recently on Mastodon for example, Mastodon.social has had huge spam waves of bots creating accounts on it then randomly sending replies with spam links to anyone they can find. And of course because Mastodon.Social is a huge instance with not enough moderators, people on outside instances can't really do anything except whack-a-mole with the constantly new accounts since the "flagship instance" has open registration. At one point the instance I use now had to suspend mastodon.social temporarily to make the spam wave stop, which of course screwed up everyone's follows.

The best part of Mastodon is the federated nature of the network, which gets completely screwed up when you have mountains of people on a handful of "too-big-to-suspend" instances rather than have people spread out across hundreds-thousands of smaller spaces.

[–] Trapping5341@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They can and probably have already and if not they will.

Someone posted this to make that point clear to everyone and a few people missed the point.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Meta should stay away from fediverse!

[–] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah, not a fan of the ominous shadow threads™️ casts. I don't trust them not to flood the fediverse with assorted toxic garbage to push people back towards their walled garden platforms.

The fediverse offers something radical - a new shot at genuine self determination and a socialised, self-governing internet. That shit spells B-A-D N-E-W-S for incumbent platforms (imo) and they're bad actors in general; they wouldn't think twice about smothering anything that threatens their short/long term profits. Who'se going to stop them?

Might be a little bit overly risk concious but goddamn. If I were them, I'd be trying to kill alternative ecosystems before they grew - especially if mine (metas) is both trash to use, and be used by.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even worse, the Threads app is a privacy nightmare

I bet meta really wants to keep track of people in fediverse

[–] LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What does "Other Data" even cover? Could be literally anything Meta wants

[–] EricHill78@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bet your DNA profile is part of the "other data". /s

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[–] eroc1990@lemmy.parastor.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bear in mind that this blocks you from seeing Threads posts on your profile. Unless you private your profile, this changes nothing as far as what they're able to see/pull from your account. Their official documentation states that the block only prevents users from seeing or retrieving content from those servers. You'd probably have to be performing some DNS-level filtering on incoming requests or web firewalling from the host level to prevent their incoming requests.

[–] Skepticpunk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Can't you get banned from Threads? What happens when someone posts content on a Fediverse server that isn't supposed to be allowed on Threads? Porn, for example.

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[–] AcornCarnage@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't I just do this?

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