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or even pseudo-incriminated for attempting to maintain our own life.

It seems so stupid that I'm like a suspect for wanting an exchange of information without dropping my pants and bending over. No, I don't want cookies. Yes I want to read the article but no, I don't want to "sign up."

It makes me feel like being a f*cking hermit. But I prefer to pirate. Even though I'm not that good at it. Screw them. I got two private trackers, a VPN, and I hope that's enough.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 181 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It seems so strange to me that everyone buys the bullshit that personal data is worth very little.

The data brokerage industry is a multi-trillion dollar industry. Yet, there are only ~8 billion people in the world, many of whom don't have internet access or have very little data being traded. Thus it's reasonably safe to assume that an average regular internet user's data is worth somewhere in the region of $1,000 per year.

These companies don't do anything with the data. We create the data, they collect it and sell it, then whoever buys it is the one that actually makes something from it. If we allow the brokers a very generous profit margin, they are still stealing $500-700 from every one of us, every year.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ChatGPT, summarize this for me like I'm a geriatric politician.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Personal data worth a lot. 8 billion humans exist. Industry is multi trillion of profit. Even at only a single trillion that's 1000 dollars per person a year. It's way more than 1000.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's including showing the ads. The data itself isn't worth that much unless people are viewing them.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

The efficacy of advertising is sold primarily by advertisers. It's possibly worth a vanishing fraction of what these ghouls say it's worth. But so long as buying it and acting like a greedy invasive bastard is more profitable than ignoring it, even by a tiny margin, corporate giants will keep doing it, since the cost to them is a rounding error.

The industry enabling this is large because they get to sell the same garbage to so many bastards.

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[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 68 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Yeah it's weird how privacy and piracy have blended together over the years.

With some games you need to pirate them if you don't want a Russian nesting doll of launchers and accounts that are able to leak your information and fill your computer with bloat.

I do find the argument interesting some YouTubers try to make about ad blockers being a form of piracy.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be fair, it makes sense to liken the use of ad blockers with piracy. Consuming the content without paying for it either way, either without directly paying yourself or without indirectly paying through watching ads. Doesn't change that ads on most parts of the internet are extremely invasive and far too much.

I feel fully entitled to protect myself from the ads because of the problems with them. But I don't feel the need to lie to myself about the fact that I'm consuming content without paying for it in some way. Then again I support some content creators that I feel deserve it. Not sure if that helps offset it somewhat or not, but I don't really care that much either.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Please stop doing this. It just gives bad actors better tools to fuck content creators.

If ads arent chosen and paid to the content creators directly then its a damned cancer on the entire industry and you, by giving them this, are supporting wage theft at best and exploitation at worst

How many content creators have been demonetized for no reason at all yet ads are still injected into their content anyway?

Sorry for being angry about this, but if we as a whole accept this then we are watching enshitification in action and im sick of the amazing thing that is the internet continually get worse

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't see why a free market can't take care of this problem. Let the suppliers run their ads and if it's not profitable then let them fold. None of this "please stop using ad blockers our business model sucks and we need you to accept worse overall service so we can stay in business".

I don't really care that much either.

This is the most important thing imo. Some people just don't care (not saying it's a bad thing). Others do so to each their own.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Anyone who considers adblocking immoral shouldn't block anykind of advertising anywhere.

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With some games you need to pirate them if you don't want a Russian nesting doll of launchers and accounts

I'm not a gamer but is this really true? I thought it was the other way around, that pirated games were the ones filled with malware.

[–] Vanix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Absolutely. Sure pirated games run that risk but communities are big enough to usually snuff it out quickly if it's a malware filled crack. Going through legitimate means a PC gamer is likely to have steam, epic games launcher, blizzard launcher, EA, Ubisoft, and probably more I can't think of. Many of these are clunky and slow and demand online connectivity or multiple sign in auths every time you just want to play a damn single player, offline game

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure pirated games run that risk but communities are big enough to usually snuff it out quickly if it's a malware filled crack.

Big time. Even rumours of a repackers adding malware blow up on communities like this.

Core characters in the repack community also occasionally ask for and receive donations. I've donated to DODI, FitGirl, and Gnarly. Hopefully they receive enough to discourage them from anything malicious but they're also adored and respected by the community.

Going through legitimate means a PC gamer is likely to have steam, epic games launcher, blizzard launcher, EA, Ubisoft, and probably more I can't think of. Many of these are clunky and slow and demand online connectivity or multiple sign in auths every time you just want to play a damn single player, offline game

I purchased a Call of Duty title recently and that was a big thing. The amount of ads in the launcher was wild.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's more crazy is that the very ISPs that track all of our information and sell to the highest better are the same ones sending us letters and emails when we use torrents that they'll shut off our services if we continue to pirate movies and music.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

They have to break the law to make sure that you aren't "breaking the law".

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not strange. They are greedy. Period. If ever someone is less greedy, then even if only after they die the corp becomes as greedy as possible, ASAP - e.g. Disney.

What's weird is that we are also hard-wired to be generous, so piracy does weird things to our conscience. If that bothers you, my advice is to learn to tip well irl, and in CASH whenever possible - the WORKERS deserve your aid.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Fuck tipping. American tipping culture enables employers to get away with paying their hospitality service industry employees starvation wages. By giving a big tip you are just telling the employer "Don't worry about paying your employees a living wage. I got you fam."

Obviously I still tip depending on where I am, but the minimum amount that is considered socially acceptable.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

You see, the paperclip maximizer is real. Only, it isn't paperclips. We are being compressed into currency.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember the Internet in the early to late 90s. What a magical time it was. I've said for years now that giant corporations are going to basically buy out the Internet and pidgin hole you into using their services. They've basically accomplished that goal.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is why we need a p2p mesh internet.

Everyone: "But Explodicle, the bandwidth will be terrible!"

Meh, all we really need is basic communication infrastructure that isn't hostile. Everything else I can wait to download... like the 90s.

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[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Corpos are greedy for money and will attack anything that stands between them and it. That is until the Govt steps in, then the lobbiests fend it off with handfulls of money.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is almost verbatim the definition of a dystopia, fwiw.

eta: the start of it is nearly a Black Mirror episode

[–] flooppoolf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How do you get “good” private trackers man. Either they’re all empty or just seem impossible to get into

[–] vildis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Open signups happen frequently but you have to be quick to catch them

Opentrackers.org and r/opensignups (or r/trackersignups) are good to check once in a while

MyAnonaMouse has open applications twice a week and the test is very easy

[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

maaan, I have to go to reddit for that? Ewww

[–] themachine@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Depends on which tracker. In general though invites and you get invites by association with relevant groups. Sometimes open registration occurs (though rarely) an other times the trakcer may do interviews.

It mostly comes down to time and patience.

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[–] snowe@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

By not torrenting. Use Usenet instead. Way safer and easier. Once I went Usenet I literally haven’t touched a single torrent in over a decade.

[–] flooppoolf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here we gooooo

Into the rabbit hole that is, idk what Usenet is

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Search the term "OpenSignups"
They less elite one open usually during holidays like Easter Christmast, Black Friday and summer break.

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Set up a private dns too, just in case of an ambush.

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[–] java@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

to the point of being denied service

Yes. Spotify blocks my account if I'm using VPN, ChatGPT asks to solve ridiculous captchas (on a paid account!). It's crazy. Reddit blocks access if you're on the VPN and not logged in.

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