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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago

This sounds less like a debunking or disproving and more like defining further conditions and ways to avoid it happening.

They key thing that caught my attention was that potential ToC scenarios were averted by a community realizing the potential for it and agreeing to rules with accountability built in that govern the resource at risk.

The lesson I think is that the ToC's judgement of humans as just naturally destructive is false, but that what keeps humans from being destructive out of carelessness is systems of rules which naturally remind people to act with care.

Key example, libraries, ToC says they'd fail due to everyone stealing the books, but because there's a rule system that has in built accountability, the only people who even try to are mostly considered to be "too clever for their own good by half." thinking they can beat the system that literally knows they were the last one to have the book they haven't gotten back yet.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 26 points 11 months ago

… despite being thoroughly dissected decades ago, despite being contradicted by millennia of human existence …

“the tragedy of the commons” was first coined by white supremacist, eugenicist, and Neomalthusian ecologist Garret Hardin in 1968

— [Andrewism] The REAL Tragedy of the Commons

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago
[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

I thought this was common knowledge by now.

Hardin was a fascist who published what he thought would justify the destruction of those he saw as subhuman.

Anyone using the phrase “tragedy of the commons” at this point is just a pathetic lackey of his cause.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It should be called the tragedy of capitalism because it's the only system it ever happens under

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I fucking hate capitalism but this is verifiably false.

It happened countless times in history long before capitalism was even a notion.

[–] worldofbirths@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Not necessarily, communist governments sound a lot like the application of force and control over resources because smaller communities are not trusted to do it fairly.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago