I wish more people would engage with this at the cinema
this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2023
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We live in a society - George Costanza
Common courtesy and following the rules and situational awareness are not the same thing as "how will my choices affect the people around men in this moment."
You just described c/antiwork
Sure, but the rules are usually made by powerful people to support their power. And we follow them to avoid losing our jobs and becoming homeless.
We live in a mercenary society, and if you reject that you just become homeless in a mercenary society.
There might be some jobs that pay a living wage and are 100% socially positive, but there are not enough of them for most people to live their lives by social contract.
We live by corporate contract, or else we are homeless.
the notion that we all make minor sacrifices in our daily interactions in service of a “greater good” for everyone.
That's a talking point abusers and their supporters commonly use to convince victims to accept abuse and to continue to suffering.
No just society expects you to subordinate your unailenable right to defend yourself from violence, for example, but many states do, and they can and will arrest and imprison abuse victims for fighting back on those grounds.
Anyone who tells you to make sacrifices for the greater good is being immoral and should be ignored.
Greater goods do not require sacrifices.
i wholeheartedly disagree. Do I want to drive through every single red light to get to where I'm going? Of course! Do I? No because we cant have a function transport system without me sacrificing that. Do i want to blast music at 2am sometimes? yes, but do I? no because that would be unfair to my neighbors. There are a million examples I could pull from to prove my point.
Other people explicitly don't do those things and suffer no consequences. And I am expected to sacrifice my health and well-being tolerating it for a low-status place in a society that never wanted me in the first place, so who exactly is benefitting from all of those sacrifices? Not me and not you. Only evil people who take advantage of it to benefit themselves and are willing to be aggressive to defend it get anything out of it, so my point stands. Being expected to sacrifice yourself for a greater good is immoral.
A. That’s not what the social contract is, and 2. There is no social contract.