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[–] schwim@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (5 children)

For those offended by subscription for ad-free experience and data collection, consider Connect for Lemmy. No data collection and no pay-to-browse scheme.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kuroneko.lemmy_connect&hl=en_US&gl=US

[–] kuro_neko@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Connect dev here. I can promise Connect will never have ads or subscriptions.

[–] President_Pyrus 16 points 2 years ago

Connect is a good app, but it just isn't as polished as Sync yet. I will stick with Connect for the time being though.

[–] twistedtxb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I sincerely don't know why would someone downvote your comment.

[–] random_prime@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you. I'll donate. Would you consider making it open source? I used to be a fan of Sync and had their one time payment for ultra version. But this current release is subscription only and I don't want to any subscription. Again thank you. The app is great so far.

[–] ljdawson@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

One time remove ad and lifetime ultra were added this evening into sync.

[–] Xero@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago

I will be donating to you. $20 to remove ads is nonsense.

[–] tatochipcookie@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 years ago

I'm okay with paying the subscription fee. I purchased Sync for Reddit Ultra back in the day with a one time payment and that was great, but it was one of the most supported apps I have ever bought in all my years of using computers and phones. For several years, I got a well supported app, and I felt like I got a steal of a purchase. I don't feel that the annual fee for Sync forLemmy is a cash grab by LJDawson, especially if the app just keeps getting better and better. It's already the most polished Lemmy client out now.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

People are willing to pay for a better experience.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think you are missing the problem here. Paying for a good product or extra features is one thing. Paying to remove the ads that you added in the first place is another. Lemmy is funded entirely by donations and doesn't have any ads.

It's a pretty bad look that is fundamentally against the goals of Lemmy as ad free an open platform with a free API. Otherwise we are going to go down the same rabbit hole again and again like what happened with Reddit.

[–] zik@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The ads/subscription support the developer, who works on this as his full time job. This means we get a better app.

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[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm getting tired of people telling me what Lemmy is supposed to be about.

Every individual instance has their own goals that are completely independent from the core Lemmy project. If the creators of Lemmy don't like that they shouldn't have made it open source.

[–] FuckSpez@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

This exactly

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lemmy choosing not to serve ads doesn't mean nobody else is allowed to. I have no issues with Sync serving ads at all. Heck, I wouldn't even care if Lemmy served them. People have a right to be paid a reasonable amount for their effort

[–] QHC@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is more relevant for Lemmy than client apps, but the problem with relying on ads is that you then become beholden to the ad-buyers.

I think that can be mitigated by operating as a non-profit that is not seeking to launch a multi-billion IPO at some point in the future, however. Decentralization is the answer to the "growth problem" that the last decade of failed tech investments has constantly run into.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

Depends on what you mean by beholden to them. Unless you're partnering directly with certain ad providers it's pretty much plug-and-play: you can just choose to not optimize for serving ads.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Part of the purpose of moving from Reddit to Lemmy is that a for profit corporation making money off of the free content of users was considered bad. I might even say this was the main point of contention and thought that spawned the creation of Lemmy. A free open platform where the users are more in control of their own content. Adding ads back into the mix means that somebody is profiting again off of the free content of the users. On principal this goes against the purpose of Lemmy. You may as well just use Reddit as the end goal of monetizing the fediverse is basically going to end up the same.

So for Sync to not be against the spirit of Lemmy it would need to remove its free version with ads so that the only thing you are paying for is the app itself and not for the content without ads.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

Just don't use the app. This isn't rocket science.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Sync is still just one guy so it's not some mega corp. I don't like ad monetization model either but with the few apps I use regularly I'll pay to remove.

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.helvetet.eu 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, connect is good, I'm using it right now. Wish it could be open source though.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

don't like the excessive padding and lack of stuff everywhere tho, feels so empty.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't wait to try this out. I understand the apprehension some people have but I was a loyal user of reddit sync for many years.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Am trying it and I like it a lot so far !

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm disappointed in it and will go back to one of the ad free, free apps...

[–] President_Pyrus 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, it looks like an excellent app, but I refuse to deal with ads on Lemmy. As the app is great I would happily pay a one time fee to remove ads, but it seems that the only option is a subscription, which is a no go for me.

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's still debating a pro tier with ad free IIRC

[–] MariaShima@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No longer a debate, he said in the announcement thread a pro one time in app purchase will be coming.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Great, that's what I immediately went to look for since it's what I had back when it was reddit sync.

[–] _comfortablyAverage_@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

now I'll have to double check if I'm on reddit or lemmy, love how similar the experience is :)

edit: jumped ship!!! im now on infinity for lemmy!! didn't know this was a thing. holy moly now I REALLY have to make sure if I'm on reddit or lemmy since I still have infinity for reddit installed

[–] allroy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

if you're in sync, you're on Lemmy. isn't that why most of us are here?

that said it DOES feel like home. 😁

[–] Serpardum@lemmyonline.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How the heck do you log in? Cant find it anywhere.

[–] KingOfNexus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On home page, top left corner the three lines, then top item on the menu it produces. Ive got sidebar enabled fyi, I'm not sure if that effects what I'm seeing.

[–] Serpardum@lemmyonline.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks. How the heck did I not see that "add account". I think because it looked like a title, not an item.

[–] Mindlight@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Took me way too long to find it too... So I say we blame someone since mother none of us are stupid.

[–] Infinity187@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I keep getting a perpetual loading visual and it just states pending =(. I can't wait to get my sync back!

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Cancel and restarting the download did it for me.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's been an hour since this comment but just in case anyone else has the same, canceling and restarting allowed it to start downloading. For some reason the automatic attempt just hung on my device.

[–] Infinity187@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I finally figured it out about 3 m8n ago! Thanks for the help!

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