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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

curious but how could anti cheat work on linux

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have gotten so used to not dealing with windows that on the rare occasion when I do go back I find that I have to check my anger and aggression while doing so.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Never used W11. W10 works about 100x better than Linux and doesn't require me to memorize commands to punch into the CLI for mundane tasks or have 11 different types of program install processes.

I daily Linux for privacy reasons but you're delusional if you think Linux is easier to use.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

When I tried the early free upgrade from Window 10 to 11, half my games wouldn't work, and I couldn't fix the UI to what was comfortable. Also all the control panels had another layer of simplified facade before it would let me see the Windows XP control panel window.

Also the games that worked had a significant framerate drop.

I swtched back after a day of frustration and every once in a while my Windows 10 nags me to try upgrading again because Win11 is much better.

I need to stop being a coward and make my switch to Linux.

I'll need to find an equivalent to Autohotkey though. I'm left handed and depend on keyboard profiles to play games.

[–] 01011@monero.town 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's definitely more frustrating. I've had a similar experience trying to help people with their Windows PCs. Thankfully I've managed to convince a few to switch to Linux Mint.

[–] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Builds New PC -> Can't even start Steam

Somehow I don't think the problem is Windows.

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even just installing windows is pretty bad. They include jack shit for default wifi drivers and won't let you complete the installation without an internet connection (and a stupid Microsoft account to complete their data mining 1984 tracking system) unless you use secret command line bullshit.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think windows 11 wouldn't be nearly as bad if it didn't force an online account on you. Yes, I know there are sometimes ways around it, but they are not for the average user to pull off. Especially the OEM laptops that ship win11 s-mode, where if it's not the right patch, you gotta do bios edits, registry edits.

[–] Bobert@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's literally two clicks to make a local account instead.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, no it's not. Maybe with a standalone iso. But an out of box machine from the majore OEMs like Dell and HP, it's not. Even if you never connect it to the Internet it can be nearly impossible to get around.

[–] Bobert@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's just not true to my personal experience with over 200 devices from Dell and Lenovo. Especially concerning the not connecting to internet. That is literally the only step you need to take if the OEM install wants to force a MS account to be able to install local accounts. "Nearly impossible" is absolute hyperbole and you know it.

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are exactly 2 things keeping me from switching to Linux full time.

Microsoft Office (I am aware of open/LibreOffice and the web version, but all are still lacking some feature or another)

Parsec hosting (I started doing weekly remote movie nights over the pandemic and parsec is basically the perfect drop-in solution for that)

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