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[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zero is a number. Need I say more?

Bbbutt....... Is it a "Natural" number?

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

N is the set of "counting numbers".

When you count upwards you start from 1, and go up. However, when you count down you usually end on 0. Surely this means 0 satisfies the definition.

The natural numbers are derived, according to Brouwer, from our intuition of time of time by the way. From this notion, 0 is no strange idea since it marks the moment our intuition first begins ^_^

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

0 is natural.

Source - programming languages.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Most programming languages

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[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't personally know many programming languages that provide natural number type in their prelude or standard library.

In fact, I can only think of proof assistants, like Lean, Coq, and Agda. Obviously the designer of these languages know a reasonable amount of mathematics to make the correct choice.

(I wouldn't expect the same from IEEE or W3C, LOL

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really just a joke about counting from 0 instead of 1.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, array indexing, sure.

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[–] Mio@feddit.nu 3 points 1 year ago

How about minus zero?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So 0 is hard. But you know what? Tell me what none-whole number follows right after or before 0. That's right, we don't even have a thing to call that number.

[–] bitfucker@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I think p-adic has that

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