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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

thinking about how I was inoculated against part of ai hype bc a big part of my social circle in undergrad consisted of natural language processing people. they wanted to work at places with names like "OpenAI" and "google deepmind," their program was more or less a cognitive science program, but I never once heard any of them express even the slightest suspicion that LLMs of all things were progressing toward intelligence. it would have been a nonsequiter.

also from their pov the statistical approach to machine learning was defined by abandoning the attempt to externalize the meaning of text. the cliche they used to refer to this was "the meaning of a word is the context in which it occurs."

finding out that some prestigious ai researchers are all about being pilled on immanetizating agi was such a swerve for me. it's like if you were to find out that michio kaku has just won his fourth consecutive nobel prize in physics

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

it’s like if you were to find out that michio kaku has just won his fourth consecutive nobel prize in physics

hell of a stinger

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

Microsoft's AI leader claimed that copyright on the internet can be ignored: https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/ever-put-content-on-the-web-microsoft-says-that-its-okay-for-them-to-steal-it-because-its-freeware

With respect to content that is already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been freeware, if you like. That's been the understanding, there's a separate category where a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said, 'do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content.' That's a gray area and I think that's going to work its way through the courts.

Watch the entire interview if you're bored because he is in deep. Microsoft probably just hired the most AI-enthused person they could find.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Never thought I'd see Microsoft suggest downloading a car, but I should have seen it coming.

[–] Eiim@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

I think even wilder is that he thinks content which has explicitly been labeled "do not scrape except for search engine indexing" is a "gray area" with regards to scraping for AI. Like, that's exactly what it says not to do!

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I might have been wrong on the capabilities of ML, this is very impressive. (twitter link), was I wrong and Yud right?

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 1 points 8 months ago
[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Strange sightings of electoral posters in Tokyo:

A collection of posters for the Tokyo governor election, with an anonymous “AI mayor” candidate from the “AI party”

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

https://www.ai-mayor.com/

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI%E5%85%9A

This is just weird. But I guess that's to be expected from elections anywhere in the world, disgruntled groups use them to get their message out.

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Have a cursed book written by Henry Kissenger in 2023.

The Age of AI: Our Human Future -- https://www.amazon.com/Age-I-Our-Human-Future/dp/0316273805

^Found^ ^by^ ^way^ ^of^ ^https://old.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/1dqv2kj/having_heard_the_entirety_of_the_kissinger_series^

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