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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 80 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

The rumor of Rasputin and the Russian Queen is much much older than the song though.

I don't think it was ever confirmed either. Tzar Nicholas did often leave to WW1 front to inspect troops (and other kingly duties), so it's just Rasputin and the Queen left in Moscow....

It might be bullshit. It might not be. But Rasputin's family line were dealing with said rumors for a century or more.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The Rasputin story is intrinsically tied to the Anastasia story and both are based of off revolutionary narratives following the Russian civil war.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1uXTcqWE0vwJgQ6iQJSDYV

Edit: Meant to say that because the Russian revolution was so propagandized, most of the info people believe about it is bullshit.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Anastasia survived as an amnesiac who was taught by a con-man to act like a Princess again but then slowly regains her memories before shattering the phylactery of Rasputin because Rasputin's incompetent bat familiar couldn't catch it.

You know. Once upon a deceeeeeeeemmmmmbeeeerrrrrrrrr!

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is Bartok slander and I will not stand for it!

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah, Bartok the Magnificent.

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Bartok! Bartok! Bartok! Bartok!

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll double check the finale right after I get a brand new VHS player to check the tapes. But I do admit that I'm working off of memory here, lol.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I may have missed him, since I never saw the movie, but I don't think I saw a bat in this sequence.

https://youtu.be/lrGIfJdbUHY

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

It sounds like the kind of rumor that Rasputin would spread about himself.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I mean, you can read it all here.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Vitally, there's no evidence to believe it's true

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I doubt the rumors slapped like the song though

[–] db2@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He was Russia's greatest love machine.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

A cat that really was gone.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

4 of his great grandchildren are still around. One came forward publicly, not the rest as they mostly stay hidden since it was still taboo to admit who their great grandfather was until somewhat recently.

[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

President John Tyler has grandchildren that are still alive. Tyler died before Rasputin was born.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Died in 1862 for those who are wondering, his grandson was born in 1928, 138 years after the birth of his grandfather.

[–] RalphWolf@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm having trouble with the timeline. How old was he? And how old was the son or daughter when the grandchild was born?

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Full disclosure I didn't check anything I just found it online after about two seconds of looking.

[–] RalphWolf@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Wow. Those guys were having kids as senior citizens.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago

WTF in a decade of sitting through Pointless only because it's on at dinner time, how have I never heard Xander mention John Tyler?!?

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