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[–] Zintag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Oh cool. It's the same 5 memes reposted ad nauseam here too. Redditors gonna feel right at home.

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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

God damn I thought I saw the last of these stupid browser takes on reddit, chromium is open source and we've seen multiple browsers (Brave, Vivaldi, I think librewolf) using its potential to remove themselves from the chromium baseline and build out their own fork with ad blocking services that didn't go down when manifest V3 happened.

There's no "browser monopoly" anymore than there's a "V shaped engine" monopoly in cars. Why don't people use Gecko more? That's like asking why people don't use rotary piston engines in cars, you could, it's just garbage. Gecko isn't the standard because no one wants to build a web browser with it.

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[–] Melody@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate chromium.

It acts like chrome because IT IS CHROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Minus the obvious branding and proprietary "Google-y bits" Unfortunately it's the same codebase.

At least Firefox at it's core truly differs.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The only reason Chromium exists is because Google is bound by the original license when they bought it, which is copyleft. So they have to release an open source version, which is Chromium. Google Chrome is their flagship product and is proprietary and hence is the one that bears the Google branding and colours.

[–] PumpedSardines@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Midnitte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, WebKit is just Blinks (Chromium) sibling. I'm not sure if KHTML is proud or not.

[–] thehatfox@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Blink has diverged enough from WebKit that they are separate engines now. KHTML has been sadly laid to rest.

It’s a miserable state of affairs that we are effectively down to just 3 browser engines now, Blink, WebKit and Gecko. But with the ever increasing scope and complexity of web standards I don’t see that changing, unless someone throws a lot of extra support at the Servo project.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gecko is done for. Which major browsers use it?

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

This is precisely what makes Firefox so important. It's basically the only other open and independent implementation of the web stack. If Firefox goes away then the web becomes whatever Chrome is doing just how it was in the days when IE was the only game in town.

This will also make Google the gatekeeper for the Internet, and there's a pretty big conflict with an ads company controlling how people consume content online. We've already seen how Google keeps trying to make API changes in the engine that kneecap adblockers.

Of course, people could fork Chrome into a separate project, but maintaining a fork is a herculean effort, and it would basically need the funding and infrastructure that Mozilla already has.

[–] Aetherion@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] NakedGardenGnome@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Safari isn't a chrome based browser though?

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[–] Hypx@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

There really needs to be a "Linux" of browser engines.

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't that gecko, Firefox's engine?

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, chromium is the Linux of browsers.

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[–] Liontigerwings@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that not what Chromium is? An open source browser that anyone can adapt to suit their needs.

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[–] GeekFTW@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So can someone confirm if 'they' ever got Chromecast access functional in Firefox yet? Last time I looked into it and tested it out the plugin or fx_bridge or whatever it was called was years ago and it never managed to work, which is the sole reason why I haven't switched to Firefox.

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[–] Ronno@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, our IT department is blocking every browser except for Chrome and Edge. It is infuriating, because out of the list, these two are my least favorite to use (putting it mildly).

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[–] Engywuck@beehaw.org -1 points 2 years ago

So? Brave is way better than today's Firefox. And I say that after being an avid FF user for almost 19 years. I refuse to go back to it or to fuel the shitshow and cash-grab which is Mozilla nowadays.

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