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How do you guys remember the early days of the internet? What do you miss about it?
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this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2023
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I miss written tutorials. I hate how every tutorial is a YouTube now. I don't want to watch 15 minutes and forget to pay attention for the second that has the detail that I am missing or it just doesn't show. Even short tutorials are 3 minutes when it could have been a ten second read. I want to skim a page and go directly to the point. Has writing really become that hard to do?
@bstix @Provider
Heard on NPR this morning, that UNESCO has declared "computer learning" ineffectual. It goes with a study I read some years back that showed that retention is poor when reading from a computer screen instead of textbooks containing the same information. Physiologically speaking (brain function), a textbook provides tactile and spatial memory "hooks" that the sameness of a computer screen does not, that enable superior recall at a physical level. "Muscle memory" if you will.
@tony @bstix @Provider
Then you have nothing to compare it with, do you?
Take it up with UNESCO and the French scientists who did the study.
@tony @bstix @Provider
Special pleading, generalizing from the specific (your own experience). A book is a far more useful learning tool than a computer, because you can flip back and forth, underline important items for later reference, and physically handling a book sets memory recall markers. I have known about this for decades and it's good to see the science finally being recognized. Playing cards, say duplicate bridge, on a computer is a shallow experience relative to the real thing.
@tony @bstix @Provider
Computers are far more efficient than libraries of books, obviously, but that is not the point. The content of a HS math text does not need updating, nor a history book, a book of literature. One doesn't "search" a textbook, one learns the material. You have changed the context to suit your vision of what I was talking about. We're not talking about research, we're talking about K-12 schoolbooks. You don't need to update how to add and subtract or Shakespeare's poems.
@tony @bstix @Provider
A school situation is EXACTLY what we're talking about, elementary and grade school especially. Children using remote learning during covid fared miserably. And you CAN search textbooks by underlining, bookmarking with tabs, etc. For some subjects, say history, using different colored markers to emphasize certain paragraphs heading, names, dates, etc. made it possible for me to memorize the essential facts in a history book in a day or two before an exam.
@tony @bstix @Provider
Why update elementary math texts, to give "educators" something to do and keep the publishing industry afloat? In 1976, a friend asked me to teach her 15 yo daughter about lowest common denominators and prime numbers. The textbook, unlike the one I used in high school, was gobbledygook. No wonder she couldn't understand it! I couldn't figure out what they were saying and I have a masters in radio engineering! Within an hour she understood it and made an A on her test.