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Which phone brand is recommendable at the moment? Fairphone uses android, which can hardly be trusted.
Google Pixel + GrapheneOS
Also, if you think Apple's completely closed source software is more trustworthy than Google's mostly open source software... LOL
also, idk how true this is, but ive seen that google sells pixels at a loss when they’re on sale (they expect to make back the money by spying on you)
so if you were to get a pixel while it’s on sale and install grapheneos on it, not only would you get a nice phone with a secure os, but you’d do so while costing google money. win win win!
Well, the point is I do not trust either. I am on apple now, but my experience with android is that there are apps you cannot uninstall.
On the other hand I have once tried a custom rom, but it was not a great experience. I do think I will need to try this again.
Custom ROMs are all different. Some suck, some don't. I've heard very good things about Graphene. You can even install it from the web in a couple clicks.
Do things like banking and MFA apps work? I have to have Duo for work
For some it works, for me it doesn't and graphene is detected as an unsupported OS.
Not sure, I've been looking at Graphene myself but haven't used it. Just passing on what I've seen.
You can install CalyxOS or other custom ROM
GrapheneOS
not on the Fairphone.
Yeah, the most "free" option is probably android custom ROMs (anything based on lineageos, I suppose).
There are alternatives that are slowly building up, such as postmarketos, but it's not production ready.
I think KaiOS was a thing for a while, and it's based on FirefoxOS. But you would have to ditch the confort of a real smartphone and I'm not sure it's still active?
EDIT : KaiOS is indeed maintained BUT it is still based on Android (probably with less higher level components)
You can install /e/ on the Fairphone
or CalyxOS if you're not too fond of knockoff iOS UI. I've been using Calyx on my FP4 for a while now, works like a charm.
Forgot that runs on Fairphone.
Yeah, Calyx is the better option for it
Fairphone uses their own custom OS to degoogle things and help ensure privacy. I dont think its perfect but its about as good as it gets. Otherwise you can buy a google phone and degoogle it with Graphene
no they don't. the default Fairphone OS runs stock Android with all Google apps. there are degoogled custom ROMs available, and you can buy some models with it preinstalled, but those are managed by third party resellers/partners.
You are right, I had it a little backward. The e foundation makes /e/OS, and they sell a murena fairphone 5 with the OS preinstalled. So you can get a fairphone thay way, or just install it yourself.
https://e.foundation/e-os/