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Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

I use Debian as a distro.

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[–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe not what you're looking for, but I use Asahi Linux on an old M1 MacBook Air and it's quite nice. I bought it used for $480 last year.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Does everything work on it? Sleep/hibernate too?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure the mic does not work if you need to have video meetings.

[–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think hibernate is a missing function - I've never tried it though. Here's a good write-up on the pros/cons and potential issue depending on your use case :
https://www.anuragrao.site/blog/05-asahi-linux

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's a fantastic writeup and i wished something like it existed for all laptops; thanks for sharing it.

i've been meaning to purchase a new windows laptop to understand what the linux experience is like for most people today; but i've learned that i've been so spoiled from buying linux only laptops with on-par performance with windows that the prospect of paying so much money for something with that's very likely to be subpar compared to windows makes me hesitate.

writeups like this would make it easier for me to make an informed decision and i understand why they don't exist for most windows laptops; i just wished it did.

[–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Agreed! Knowing what I was getting myself into was the only reason I even bought my MacBook. One thing not mentioned in that write-up is that if you increase your swap file size to offset the limited RAM it's surprisingly quick still, I assume due to a fast nvme drive. For my use case it's perfect. I'm even able to run some LLMs using Ollama that don't otherwise work with 8gb of memory.

For Windows machines I've found the Linux experience has vastly improved over the years. It seems that most mass-market hardware is functional right out of the box.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

i think that, that's the highest testament to all the work that's been put into linux; it works ok on anything and i wish that laptops didn't cost so much that paying for "ok" (instead of perfect) didn't hurt so much.