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Sure, it's gatekeeping coffee - the reason we build walls with gates is to keep the barbarians out! I wasn't trying to 'gatekeep caffeine' in the slightest, those concotions are defintely cafffinated hot drinks. And of course, by some standard they're 'coffee' and so is tiramsu.
Apple jacks pop tarts are made from apples (apple powder, but apples nothertheless), and while it might be a small fraction of the total, the point where it stops being fruit and becomes a snack is an arbitary line. I assume you consider a drink made with instant coffee powder still coffee?
Obviously, it's a silly semantic debate, and someone could equally judge me for wanting my coffee beans roasted and ground "why not eat the berries fresh if you say you love coffee‽".
My point is that it would be silly to judge someone for this, just like it's silly to judge someone for putting creamer in coffee.
Edit: also, what about drinks like mochas, cappuccinos, macchiatos, etc. which also have other ingredients mixed in? Generally it's still fine to call those forms of coffee, no?
Random side note: I've had chocolate-dipped espresso beans before and they're actually a pretty good snack. You just can't eat too many of them because of the caffeine content.
Yes, I guess I take the different perspective with that. I'm fine sticking with my own arbitary rule for what is coffee, and judging people (in a very mild and irrelevant way) for not liking "real" coffee. But I'm also totally fine with someone judging me for doing it wrong. Or putting cream in my carbonara or whatever. I don't think people judging each other and having arbitary standards is a bad thing, and I'm aldoy happy for people to disagree with that belief.
A cappachino is coffee and frothed milk, a mocha is coffee and chocolate and milk, etc. If you make something by mixing A + B + C then the result can't be C. Personally I like just coffee on its own, but I'm happy to make others sweet and milky coffee drinks if they desire them. They smell nice and look pretty!
Defintely agree about the beans.
Reaching a middle ground on an Internet discussion? No, it can't be. There must be something wrong here. I need to keep arguing about minor things like daily routines. Why else would I be here?
/s if it wasn't obvious. This thread makes me happy, have a good day :)