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I'm not sure I understand. They have authority because that's their job. But we don't respect our admire them for it. So what's your point exactly?
People are down voting you because your point isn't clear, not because they disagree.
It's like you can't consider not being subjugated.
And by not voting, we remove the subjugation? No. Thr subjugation can only be removed through violence. Unless you're willing to be violent, then choosing the less bad subjugator is the best we get.
Christ. If you really want to understand the problem you have to realize both our political and economic systems are inherently violent and to what end.
I get it. You want the system to work. I do to.
https://dailyboulder.com/trump-says-blue-states-will-totally-disappear-off-the-map-next-year-promises-big-big-surprise/
Before the election, both Dump and Husk were saying they'd be in jail if they lost, talking about rigged elections, and election day surprises.
If you think voting will matter going forward you're delusional because this election was already stolen.
https://www.kkoh.com/2025/01/21/nv-sos-launches-investigations-into-election-fraud/
https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv
This was the first election in decades that there wasn't a Democrat lawsuit anywhere. Everyone signed off on everything despite years of known issues with voting machine security issues, foreign interference, Trump being an ineligible felon, scotus giving him basic immunity.
The executive controls the cops that arrest people. Even pretending a judge would issue a warrant for his arrest... Who's going to execute it?
The system has been caging you in with full support of the insider trading DNC backed by the same billionaires that back the GOP and own the media telling you how to feel about what they let you know is happening.
You won't understand, but liberals are fascists with a cleaner image.
Look into Fair Phone. They tried to make a phone free of child slavery and human exploitation and found it couldn't be done.
Every bleeding heart compassionate liberal has at least one phone/iPad/laptop/etc. All of them -all of us- benefitting from the exploitation of people we'll never have to look in the eye as they die from heavy metal poisoning.
It's easy to say it's not your fault because whatever, but it's all our fault and our collective denial oppresses us all.
The US was built off colonial imperialism and the bodies of a million slaves. A small group of rich benefitting while a large group of poor work to death.
It was the same in antiquity. It is the same in capitalism.
Capitalism has an intrinsic need to undermine democracy to the point the two are basically mutually exclusive.
Democracy is a system wherein everyone should have equal ownership of society. Capitalism is a system wherein the rich have largely exclusive control of the means of production.
Society cannot function without a means of production and thus democracy is subjugated in favor of lower wages and greater profits.
Educated workers want wages and protections. So the schools are sabotaged in favor of teaching standardized testing in favor of critical thinking. Pass the dummies because they don't want smart workers. Private schools only the rich can afford will make the thinkers.
Liberals will make a thousand sensible, small sacrifices to appease capitalists until there's nothing left to sacrifice and corporations own the country.
Voting will do little and violence will become the only option.
They suppress wages. They inflate the cost of goods. They drive small competitors out of business and buy them up, crush unions, pocket every nickel they can cut until people can't make ends meet and righteously lash out.
Ever the self victimizing dramatists, fascists will back you into a corner and when you push past them, cry foul and crack down with the full might of every law they can make up.
I agree with your overall comment but this reeks of “you participate in capitalism therefore you have no right to criticize” nonsense
Capitalism is coercive by design. It’s almost impossible to function without a smart phone let alone a cellphone these days.
You legally have to wear clothes when you’re outside (except VT). Nearly all clothes are produced in sweatshops with slave labor like conditions.
You have to eat. Nearly all food is harvested by exploited or worse workers.
That farm equipment and fertilizer? Crude oil says hello. Oh what’s that? We need cheap oil? Time for another forever war in the Middle East to “spread democracy” aka steal national wealth and assets.
I fully agree, but it's basically my point. The main differences are first realizing it and then not hand waving it away as someone else's problem.
It's the whole point of the "at first they came for" poem.
People are conditioned to think "Capitalism must be good because I have infinite selection of infinite consumption!" While justifying the exploitation of the third world workers.
Colonialism was about exploiting the external realms for resources and concentrating the wealth into one spot. For a while, the American peasantry benefitted and got comfy. Now that fascism is here, all that wealth will be further concentrated and they/we become the exploited ones.
Even now, they want to donate to Democrats that have done nothing but incrementally sell them out for decades like a boiling frog.
What’s funny is even that is a ruse and not true. Go to any chain supermarket and your options will be derived from a tiny handful of massive conglomerates. Even the produce and deli section! It’s not infinite selection, it’s infinite marketing.
Capitalism ran out of foreign resources to exploit and is now going after the imperial core. The 2008 crash and especially the aftermath is the start of that IMO. And that aftermath was entirely bipartisan with Obama stuffing his cabinet with Goldman Sachs people.
Democrats can’t seem to draw the line between that action and trumps election and reelection.
To the point of 2008 specifically-
Firstly, it never ended. They just hooked the money printer up and left rates near 0 for a decade. None of the underlying issues were actually fixed. They didn't stop over leveraging MBS, they just expanded to commercial real estate and auto loans.
Further, that's just the scapegoat. The MBS shit was just used as collateral. The problem was they were shorting VW massively and Porsche bought controlling interest causing a massive short squeeze and the computers that listen to rules liquidated their asses to cover.
Oops.
2021 was basically the same thing with GameStop. Massive illegal short positions causing short squeezes when the banks cheat and lose.
When you look into cellar boxing and the Sec's absolute refusal to do anything about obvious crime certified by statical analysis under both flavors of administration over decades there really is no other conclusion to come to beyond the uniparty leading us all to a fate of their donor's choosing.
They're either oblivious and incompetent or wholly complicit...
Then on the other front of Occupy Wall Street in response... The protests (undermined by billionaire ownership) were full of plain clothes cops inciting violence to get SWAT in. The ridiculous attention seeking X slams Y headlines increased something like 1600% post OWS as a direct effort to schism society over every line it could make up and why millennials started being blamed for killing everything ridiculous and wanting raises became entitled quiet quitting.
But we get heart warming stories about elementary school kids paying their parents cancer bills with bracelets made out of their lost hair.
Can we make out? 😂
Obama said we weren't ready for gay equality and handled the insurance lobby the Heritage Foundation's ACA promising customers while redefining enemy combatants to execute American citizens without due process.
Bush2 revenge for Daddy where Cheney's Haliburton mercs made half a million while troops had to write home for rations and body armor.
Clinton balanced the budget but unleashed the third way neo liberal rainbow Republicans.
Bush 1 tax cuts and bullshit oil wars.
Reagan. Fuck Reagan with a rusty pike. Between repealing the fairness doctrine and education sabotage, a lot of this falls on that cunt's shoulders...
But Nixon gave away healthcare to Permanente.
Johnson warned of the very racists he courted but luckily he loved black votes more than he hated black voters.
Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex he empowered much like Biden warned of the oligarchs he spent 40 years working for and not taxing.
Goldwater warned of the religious fanatics taking over the Republican party.
But you go back to Smedly Butler and the Business Plot and you'll see the last 100 years have been a slow walk back of all of the things FDR accomplished.
They really gloss over the fact FDR was a socialist elected into office for 4 consecutive terms. The 2 term limit stemmed from business interests upset that people were being protected and didn't want any more of this socialism nonsense where society works for society and not just the rich.
In fact, every study on term limits shows they're bad because you don't get rid of paid for shills but you do lose the Sanders types that do the job well because they've done it properly.
I've always found it funny how the people that fall for this shit also have very firm stances against estate taxes despite having negative net worth.
Most people's opinions are spoon fed to them and they just never really question why they believe anything or notice how most of it is conflicting nonsense.
Lol. Where are you located (vaguely is fine)? Are you female and between the ages of 25-45? If so and not on the other side of the world, maybe! 🤣
Yes to all the rest although I’d argue FDR was a social democrat and not a socialist.
Fair, but right now everything left of the children long for the mines is socialism...
A lifetime of neoliberalism and anti left propaganda will do that
It's so ironic too. You'd think if socialism was so incompetent the US wouldn't need to rant and scream and throw embargos everywhere.
It should just kinda putter out on its own, right?
But we can't talk about that because we're busy sane washing Saudis wood chippering journalists and liberating RedWhiteAndBlueLand from its Danish oppressors.
Socialism has been the only thing to give the US a run for its money.
Anarchy is wholly inadequate for the scale of the human population. Furthermore, we can't just transition to a classless, stateless society overnight. That shit has to take root across multiple generations of buy-in.
Agreed, but people not justifying the subjugation when they finally notice it would be nice though.