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[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm confused by anyone who demands Ukraine should cede territory and denies they can ever join NATO. Have fun seeing Crimean/Ukrainian/etc. conflicts repeat every few years while Russia keeps learning the lesson that imperialism is back in style. Are these people literal children, or Russian bots?

Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes as part of the Budapest Memorandum which Russia shat on, and the United States showed how little their security assurances were worth. The sad reality now is Ukraine could be admitted to NATO tomorrow and it would not matter one bit, because our current president believes himself a king who cannot be forced to abide any previous treaty, law, or norm of human decency.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Right, Russia simply shat on the Budapest Memorandum unprovoked; the West and Ukraine didn’t shit on any promises and accords beforehand. And history began exactly three years.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Speaking of "literal children": people like you who don't know the difference between "is" and "ought"