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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

I wonder if he’s got a plan for how Trump can lose but save face….

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

Trump save face? Come on, the guy is completely shameless. He doesn't need to save face, just tell him he's a good boy and that's enough.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

I wonder if he’ll be swapping Trudeau’s “let’s get back to being allies” message for a stronger first impression.

[–] Astra_Inclinant@lemmy.ca 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why would we want to let him save face? Let the US collapse and let the world know he did it.

I love our American brothers and sisters, but that's exactly why thier "democracy" needs to be burned down. They need to rise from the ashes of this hell.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 14 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Because this particular angry geriatric toddler has access to a lot of ways to make people suffer on a large scale and delights in the suffering of people. Sure, making him feel miserable feels great, but how many lives are you willing to sacrifice for it?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He's going to do it anyway - haven't you been paying attention? Trump doesn't want any concessions. This isn't an honest deal, it's a façade.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yes he will make people suffer regardless, but I am referring to a difference in the scale of suffering here. There’s ways for him to think he has won without actually winning. Plenty of leaders have used it against him already. Though admittedly this would work better if the media then didn’t follow up with “Haha. Cheeto doesn’t even know he didn’t win”. We might not be able to escape that one for the more public parts of politics. Though he’s trying hard to cut off the media that isn’t on his side and silence them, so who knows really.

[–] DyingWorld@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if Trump loses. Trump will lie about the outcome and the cult will lap it up.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

Guess that depends on your perspective; as a Canadian I have a vested interest in Trump losing. But Trump has a vested interest in being Trump, which includes never admitting defeat. I’d prefer his response not be “Oh yeah? Well I’ve nuked Toronto. Take that!”

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 20 points 9 hours ago

He’s so selfish and arrogant that catering to his ego will be critical. I think he’d prefer a crummy deal that lets him look good, over a great deal that embarrasses him. He doesn’t care what’s best for the USA long term; he’d rather look good now.