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Meanwhile, the US market keeps pumping out oversized, overpriced EVs all while the manufacturers complain about lukewarm consumer demand.
Same in the EU, though its changing slowly. The French started a Trend with affordable, smaller EVs.
I've only tried the peugeot 208 electric version, but my God is it an absolutely shit vehicle. Terrible range, terrible charging speed (much bigger issue than the limited range), bad driver assistances. Their TACC is about the worst I've tried with random phantom brakes all the time and poor reaction time (both reducing and increasing speed). All in all it feels much cheaper than it actually is, which is too bad.
The range is poor by design, keeping the vehicle price low while having still a steep margin due to cheaping out on the battery. This way urban affluent populations get the e vehicle while the rural populations get the benzin one since the electric version is borderline useless in a rural setting. Its a sad state of affairs. Regarding the rest, I couldn't disagree more, had a completely opposite experience with the 208 E.
I could also live with low range, as you said it's intentional to keep battery price low. But the damn charging speed is also bad, which is arguably more important than a large battery and doesn't impose the same price increase as a large battery.
Regarding driver assistances like TACC, I'm not sure how you could be satisfied with it's performance at all, it is by far the worst I've ever tried.
What are you charging with? I have a 208E and whilst I have issues with it, charging speed isn't one of them. Will usually receive 75+KWh at a fast charger (registers as 300+ mph on the dash). My home 7KWh charger will charge the car from practically flat to 90% in 5 hours (registers as 28mph on dash).
What actually drives me mad about this car is
Probably more. I like the look of the car. It drives great. It's nippy from a stand still. Range is shit. Overall 6/10.
It's the 75kW on a DC charger thats slow, decade old cars are getting better speeds than that and cars a couple of years old are 200kW+ on DC with some peaking at 300kW.
The 7kW AC charging is also annoying because they limit it by using single phase charging, especially if you're in a country where 32A single phase current is not normal in residential areas. Then you're limited to 16A which is only 3.5kW, meaning you can barely charge it in a night. There is just no good reason to do single phase charging on new cars.
There is a 3 phase 11Kw option for the car you could have had :( I don't think they retrofit them though.
Lyckily it was only a loaner I had for a little more than a week.
If they love Rand so much, let the market decide. Fucking cowards.