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[–] vrojak@feddit.org 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey hey these two things aren't mutually exclusive!

[–] sapetoku@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

True and acceptable, however I don't feel patriotic.

[–] vrojak@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't either in the typical "my country is the best" way, more like "my country is democratic and that's why it's good (also use your influence to make democracy more commonplace pls)".

[–] sapetoku@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You just defined nationalism ("my country is better, fuck the others") vs. patriotism ("I love my country and will defend its values")

And if they're both rotten, well there's always a common enemy.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, the problem in the US for an example is nationalism, not patriotism. True patriots would be fuming at what's going on. It's the nationalists that cheer on.

[–] sapetoku@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Americans are very good at cognitive dissonance and arrogance.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's mainly about fuck Muskytrump & cia. not generally all US = crap, valid only for certain collectives.