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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Those are all good points but they still don't have anything to do with my original rebuttal of the claim that Democrats are now further right than Republicans from 25 years ago.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't recall rebutting that point. It's kind of a central feature of my argument.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You wrote this:

The left is waiting for an actual left candidate and the Democrats keep running moderate right-wingers who wouldn't have been out of place on the Republican ticket 25 years ago.

25 years ago Republicans wanted to overturn Roe V Wade. 25 years ago Republicans wanted to stop don't ask don't tell and outright ban gays from the military. 25 years ago no Republicans supported gay marriage. 25 years ago Republicans complained about DEI. 25 years ago Republicans were against legalized Marijuana. 25 years ago Republicans were against any healthcare reform. 25 years ago Republicans talked about privatizing Social Security.

Harris was objectively not equivalent to a Republican from 25 years ago. The bullshit that Democrats got worse is what got Trump elected.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

25 years ago Republicans wanted to overturn Roe V Wade.

Refusing to enshrine it into law when Democrats had the chance is the same thing as overturning it.

25 years ago Republicans wanted to stop don't ask don't tell and outright ban gays from the military.

Today, Democrats are sitting on their asses and letting Trump ban whoever he wants from the militaty

25 years ago no Republicans supported gay marriage.

Today, Democrats are probably going to run Gavin Newsome for the next presidential campaign

25 years ago Republicans complained about DEI.

Today, Democrats are holding their tongues as Republicans villainize diversity wholesale.

25 years ago Republicans were against legalized Marijuana.

Today, a Democrat on my own city's council vetoed a popular ballot measure to allow a recreational dispensary.

25 years ago Republicans were against any healthcare reform.

Today, Democrats have given up on healthcare reform after passing Romneycare nearly two decades ago.

25 years ago Republicans talked about privatizing Social Security.

Today, Democrats are sitting by as Republicans dismantle it.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

Refusing to enshrine it into law when Democrats had the chance is the same thing as overturning it.

Wanting to keep Roe V Wade isn't wanting to overturn it.

Today, Democrats are sitting on their asses and letting Trump ban whoever he wants from the militaty

Americans voted to give all three branches of the government to Republicans. Democrats have no power.

Harris is not equivalent to Republicans from 25 years ago on this issue.

Today, Democrats are probably going to run Gavin Newsome for the next presidential campaign

Harris supported gay marriage. That wasn't a Republican position 25 years ago.

Today, a Democrat on my own city's council vetoed

Was that Democrat Kamala Harris?

Today, Democrats have given up on healthcare reform

Who has the majority of the house, senate and Supreme Court? Who is president?

Again Harris is not equivalent to a Republican from 25 years ago.

Democrats are sitting by as Republicans dismantle it.

Which happened because of the bullshit claims that Democrats were like Republicans. Both sides bad so don't vote.