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Okay, but where is Mac and Cheese?
And macaroni al ketchup?
The WHAT?
A staple at student kitchens around the globe?
We used to call that Pasta Rouge in what just now realize is plain wrong. Should be Pasta Rosso
Yeah? Where did they come from, OP?
american invention. there's a lot of argument between whether it was created by thomas jefferson or one of his slaves. hint: it was one of his slaves
It's a British invention, not an American one.
No, the earliest recorded recipe is British, but it is a recording of a recipe they had learnt in Italy.
Is your source that you made it the fuck up? The medieval book compares it to lasagne, but there's no evidence the authors went to Italy for this. If you're referring to the so-called first modern recipe, Elizabeth Raffald never went to Italy.
You're calling it sans evidence the result of a Grand Tour, which would've been centuries before its time to be recorded in the late 1300s.
Were they Italian?
thomas jefferson got the "recipe" from a french description of an italian dish
But it must have been cooked by an Italian, right?
Edit:
No, but they had been to Italy. Seriously, not a joke. The recipe is recorded as part of something the person had picked up from a grand tour.
It is neither a British nor American invention.
And the macaroni soup with sugar and cinnamon?
This is a god damn crime, what you've written. A crime
If it's any help, I only ever had it at my nonna's and she died of old age some years ago. I've thought about seeing if I could find a recipe, but I also don't want to be banned from Italy and Italian restaurants