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    Was trying to install guix on top of fedora silverblue. It's kinda working, but not exactly stable...

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    [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I recently brought over some ideas from VanillaOS over to my Arch install.

    1. Install as much as possible via flatpak
    2. Install a bunch of other stuff in distrobox (with podman backend)

    That gives me like 50% (idk fake number) of the features from VanillaOS, but I get to keep control over my system.

    Not that I ever had any problems with native pacman installs though... so... not sure how much benefit I'm really getting from doing this. I guess my pacman -Syu command runs faster now. That's something...

    [–] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Why are you even running arch at that point, for the DE updates?

    [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

    Honestly, just because I'm the most comfortable in Arch. I tried VanillaOS briefly, but it was way too annoying to install tailscale, so I went back to what I know.

    [–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Not judging but just fyi, that's like the worst of both worlds tbh. The point of installing independently of the base system is that the system is immutable and easy to roll back to a previous state, if you use a mutable system and also install packages with other means, you're working around a limitation that isn't even there and wasting more space to get almost none of the benefits (aside from easier permission control for Flatpaks)

    [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

    Really my main point of doing this was to try something different. I've been neutral on flatpak this whole time. I've never had problems with native installs, but I'm also a little judicious on what I try to install on my systems. The point of this exercise was to flip those habits.

    About flatpaks, I've learned:

    • a ton of stuff I installed via AUR is available as a flatpak
    • some flatpak apps seem to be a little less buggy than the native installs for some reason... (Thunderbird specifically)
    • flatpaks use more disk space

    Distrobox has also been cool because I usually don't like to install random crap on my machine, but with Distrobox I've been doing just that. I can install random C++ libraries, Node, Haskell, Postgres, etc and not worry about polluting my main system I actually care about. In the past, I would take some time to consider if I should really install this random thing. And yes, I'd pacman -Rs pkg if it didn't pan out.

    I'm not sure if I'll keep running the system like this, but so far it's been interesting to run things a little differently.

    Things I've liked:

    • Thunderbird flatpak is less buggy than Thunderbird native
    • Managing flatpak apps via Software Center or flatpak is easy/nice
    • Distrobox seems useful for working on different types of software projects

    Things I don't personally care about (but other people might and that's fine):

    • using more disk space
    • the fact that my main system is still mutable

    Things I didn't like:

    • nothing so far
    • I actually went in thinking I was gonna have to fight
    • with the flatpak permissions, but everything has worked
    • fine so far, so... not sure what I don't like.
    • maybe I'll hit a snag soon and then I'll change my mind
    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Byebye to your storage πŸ˜†

    [–] paequ2@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

    Luckily, I'm able to afford more than an 8GB SSD on my laptop. πŸ˜†

    $ podman system df
    TYPE           TOTAL       ACTIVE      SIZE        RECLAIMABLE
    Images         2           1           2.775GB     2.293GB (83%)
    Containers     1           0           3.492GB     3.492GB (100%)
    Local Volumes  2           2           0B          0B (0%)
    
    $ flatpak list | wc -l
    65
    $ du -hs /var/lib/flatpak
    12G	/var/lib/flatpak
    
    $ df -h
    Filesystem             Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    /dev/mapper/cryptroot  234G   31G  191G  14% /
    

    A 256GB drive is on the smaller side and I'm barely at 14%. Storage is cheap.