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Cross-posted from "Evergreen" by @InevitableSwing@hexbear.net in !slop@hexbear.net


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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can’t say voting is useless if people aren’t voting. 90M eligible voters abstained in 2024. Trump won with 77M votes. That means there were 13M more people that did absolutely nothing than the winning majority.

We also only see ~20% turnout in congressional Democratic primaries, yet people call for term limits. Rather than asking the system to passively replace Congress, maybe we should actually participate in the elections that allow active replacement of our electors.

Condoning or defending apathy is no different than voting for your opponent.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Parliamentary voting is completely useless. Less than useless even. More than hundred years of republican democracies, and all it's led to is fascism, wars and climate apocalypse. All beneficial progress has come from direct action from the working class.

I'm not defending apathy. I'm suggesting anarchism. Check which comm you are in.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You really need remedial history if you think every capitalist society has declined into fascism.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The ones that haven't just haven't made it there yet. Fascism is capitalism in decay.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is zero reason to believe every capitalist economy declines into fascism when you can easily make the case that only two fascist nations have existed up to this point (Germany and Italy).

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A list of fascist movements isn’t going to be a list of nations that instituted fascism. Im not sure what you thinks this proves other than that you didn’t stop to think if this actually proved your point.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago

Oh look, you hurt their wittle liberal fweelings.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Is the example you're thinking of but can't post real?

When you phrase it like that I literally can't think of a single example of Capitalism that doesn't end up like the game of Monopoly...

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No what I am saying is you need to relearn basic history if you think every capitalist nation has become fascist. Only two to five have depending on how you define fascism. That leaves 150 or so that haven’t.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nah actually you need the history lesson if you still Capitalism = Mercantilism

Capitalism has existed less than 100 years

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Really, capitalism started sometime after 1925? And yet Das Kapital was written about 150 years ago, building on David Ricardo’s early 19th century work and Adam Smith’s 18th century work.

Capitalism goes back at least as far as the English enclosure of the commons, which left peasants with no option but to sell their labor to burghers, AKA the bourgeoisie. The American Revolution was a bourgeois revolution[1].

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Nobody asked for your revisionist history CCP bot

Go back to containment tankie scum

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

A Wikipedia-level understanding of the history of capitalism shows that this isn’t “revisionist history.”

I’ve been here ten times longer than you, and I don’t intend to go anywhere. In my experience people who fling insults and bot accusations everywhere they go don’t usually last very long. You’ve already managed to get yourself permabanned from several communities and at least one instance.