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Poll Has AOC Leading Schumer by Nearly 20 Points in 2028 New York Primary
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I just want her to run for president. But after fielding 2 uninspiring establishment centre-right candidates with no grassroots base, that offer nothing exciting, the Democrats and even many voters think that women in general are unelectable.
Yeah. Democrats chose to run some of the worst candidates in history.
It's sad that now a female candidate guarantees a trump victory. Nominating conservative female candidates did more harm than good.
I just don't think very highly of Americans in general. They are too sexist, too racist, and too elitist.
They want a rich old white man. Only one time ever did they attempt something else, and that lead directly to a third of the country becoming extremists.
I love AOC. Hope she will become president one day. But please just run with someone that your sexist, racist, elitist neighbors can actually vote for.
Let AOC become Senate majority leader first. That would be really cool, impactful, and help people get used to her.
AOC is having a fucking moment, so naturally women of color suddenly can't win. Sanders got raked over the coals for just being accused of saying something like that to Warren. But it's sure different now that the party can't use it as a weapon against a progressive. Now they're trying to keep AOC from running. So the party will hold back all women in order to hold back one progressive woman.
It will give us time to think of a new excuse.
How is it sudden? Trump won both times you tried running women as president. Your fellow countrymen are bigots, have you not noticed that yet?
I know you want it, its fine. But the world cant take 4 extra years of whoever heritage chooses to dismantle democracy for them, if i happen to be right.
Because there's speculation that AOC might run.
Trump won both times we ran uninspiring centrist women for president. AOC is neither uninspiring nor centrist.
The ones you want to impress certainly are.
You have 50mil eligible voters who haven't even registered. You have another 40 million registered voters that didn't bother to show.
I agree with you that AOC is the best bet America has for a better future. But the important thing is not getting the best outcome, the important thing is actually beating the Nazis.
Are you willing to bet the future of the free world that you are right? I simply don't have enough faith in the American people. You keep disappointing.
Yes, voter apathy is a problem. Running uninspiring candidates isn't going to fix apathy; it will make apathy much worse.
Ain't seein' much evidence of anyone else actually willing to oppose nazis in any way.
The last 3 elections have been against trump. We ran dull "not trump, I guess" candidates in all three. Biden only barely squeaked in and then spent four years demonstrating that democrats don't keep their promises to anyone not named netanyahu.
If you have a more charismatic candidate than AOC, a white (conservative, naturally, since that's all this is really about) male, name him.
Tim Walz is literally doing Town Hall meeting in Republican cities where they have stopped doing official town hall meetings.
And god bless him for it. If Tim Walz can win in 2028, great.
That's no reason to hold back all women in order to hold back AOC. We have primaries for a reason (when we have primaries.) If AOC can overcome democrats' shady bullshit meant to keep progressives out, she absolutely can win. Anyone who would never vote for AOC wasn't going to vote for Walz, either. Unless you're saying that centrist democrats would rather vote for fascism or stay home than vote for a progressive, for all their talk of "no matter who."
A lot of people hate the rich people who control them, but also hate women and minorities 🤷♂️
So whats important here, do you want their votes and be able to kick the PayPal Mafia out of the oval office, or do you care more about signalling to America that women can do it too?
Its time to choose your enemies.
That's a false choice, as well as a misrepresentation of everything I've said.
If women are as incapable of winning as centrists suddenly and conveniently believe they are the instant someone brings up AOC, then you have nothing to worry about. If she can't win the general, she definitely won't be able to get through the primaries. democratic party leadership can't fuck with the general election like they can with primaries.
Mine are to my right. Are yours?
They are. I just don't trust the American people even a little, to make the best choice. So i think running the best candidate (which we agree that AOC is) will most likely be yet another political suicide for the democrats.
America really needs a left wing party, instead of a left wing faction in the least right-wing party. But the system is built so any vote for third party is just wasted, and basically amounts to a vote for the fascists 🤷♂️
This is why i say AOC should focus on becoming minority leader in the Senate. They need to kick out the right wingers from the democratic party first, and its by then that president becomes much more likely.
How convenient that the answer is always to run a centrist.
Please don't. Dude, my Prime Minister is a woman, i don't really care what you think. But your people have proven again and again to be bigots, so please don't continue to be so focused on inclusion for everyone that you neglect the part where you dont fucking lose your government to the Nazis, like wtf?
Or are you saying it is impossible to find a leftists old white man? Because your Presidents have to be old white men, please realize that.
I'd LOVE to see AOC as president, but I think this post is sopt on perfect. I think she could do some amazing good as Senate Minority, and eventually Majority Leader, and become president a bit later in life.
Gerald Ford was once addressing a classroom, and one of the kids asked him if a woman would ever be President, and he said that a woman would definitely be president someday, but the first woman president wouldnt be directly elected. He thought the first woman president would be a vice president, who gets promoted when the president dies. After that, a woman wouldn't have a problem getting elected. I thought that was a pretty insightful read on the weird bigotry of Americans.
Nah I vehemently disagree with this. The racist sexist bigots aren't going to vote democrat no matter what. Kamala spent a lot of time trying to court the """moderate"" republicans and it didn't work.
Obama won because he had a base and he got people excited. People still remember "Yes we can" and just the general hope and inspiration he brought.
And honestly to even suggest the radicalisation of the right was due to Obama is crazy.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that racism and especially sexism don't exist within the Democratic voting base. They are much less of a problem than within the Republican voting base, but they are still significant enough to swing elections.
Not solely due to Obama, but his existence in the White House did get a lot of people to take off their masks.