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It's tricky because I have things that just don't translate well to linux, or become considerably more expensive or time consuming to manage / deal with. Linux has a lot to offer and a lot of great. But I'm just going to keep running an out of date OS until I can switch.
What kind of things are holding you back?
I don't want to get into a big debate on it so if you are just curious and have a couple suggestions I'm down to talk about it. But I'm tired of people telling me that my reasoning isn't good enough for them. Like, great, thanks, glad you can be happy with it, but we aren't the same person. So I'd prefer to avoid any conversation where I'm just told to suck it up and deal with something. I am working on finding alternatives but all the ones I've come across so far are coming up short in a way that's non negotiable.
My biggest one is my O365 bundle with office apps, oneNote, and OneDrive.
I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice this year to see if I can replace word and excel. Last time I tried they weren't there for me.
OneNote is my second most vital. I'm looking at Notesnook at the moment but I'm really not enthused by a monthly price or the idea of self-hosting in a docker container. I've hated most note apps and OneNote was the only one I've clicked with so far. I refuse to touch markdown so that kills a lot of them. I'm taking notes with minor edits, and I refuse to add markdown to the process just to do that. I also will not be ok with a webapp. I don't like webapps in general.
OneDrive is probably my most vital. I have 1TB for me and 1TB each for 5 family accounts. So 6TB total. And I definitely use the space. On top of that I rely heavily on its integration to the file explorer and the mfa locked personal vault section. I don't want to deal with a web interface or separate app, outside of an authentication hook for the vault, just to access storage.
Outside of the 365 bundle, it's mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option. And that's it I believe. Certainly the most impactful applications. I think most other things I run, I can find acceptable alternatives to or can run in wine or something similar without major issue.
I wasn't going to berate you or anything. I was genuinely curious.
LibreOffice is great. I use it on my work system at a medium to larger sized company (every single other person uses o365). I haven't heard anyone complain yet about doc comparability and I haven't had any issues myself.
Stay away from OpenOffice. It's practically a dead product. When Oracle bought OpenOffice, the community forked the project which became LibreOffice. LibreOffice is where all the development and community focus and effort has gone since.
I don't have any recommendations here. I've never really found a "perfect" solution for this. Currently I use a few different solutions, but it's all centred around markdown, so they're all interchangeable.
I personally wouldn't touch OneDrive with a hundred meter pole. MS does so much screwing around with your data that you can never be sure if the data stored is what you uploaded. They've been known to just up and delete files they scan and think is malicious, even if it's a false positive. Then they're known to scan all your documents for everything, including potential passwords, then use those passwords to open password-protected files and then scan them also.
Then there's the situation from a year or so ago where they automatically switched everyone's documents folder to a "cloud first" folder, where they just auto-uploaded everyone's local files, deleted the local copies, and did it all without user consent or even informing users. And this resulted in all kinds of wild crap like people not having access to their documents because they were offline and were expecting local files. Then some people had their metered data connection getting maxed out. While others couldn't even modify their files or even save a file to their "My Documents" folder because the default storage allocation was far less than the total data of their local files. So effectively the data was held for ransom.
Most newer games that you can run your own dedicated server will almost certainly have a Linux option, which suggests you might taking about older games, in which case something like Lutris (Wine) might be an option.
But are you hosting these game servers on your desktop?
Yeah I know OneDrive is a bad option anymore. I'm definitely looking for options there but nothing is coming close so far. Hardest part is space but each requirement presents an issue.
Thanks for telling me about openoffice, looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there? I'm not keen on the AI push but it also seems optional. Thanks for the positive endorsement for Libre being compatible in an office setting. Looks like they have a good dark mode too which I'm very happy about. I love having a black background to write against and has stopped me from adopting things in the past. I can't do white backed apps anymore. They hurt lol
The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I'd like to replace the OS on it too. I don't keep the box online so I'm not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.
Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it. Lots of times I mention not being quite there for migrating it gets into this really aggravating back and forth where someone aggressively pushes Linux at me and doesn't like that I'm not instantly on board or that I have reasons they don't like. 🙄
If I remember correctly, Only Office uses LibreOffice as its core and then adds or changes default stuff. I might be wrong about that. But ultimately I hear positive things about Only Office.
Sounds like a perfect situation for loading something like Proxmox and then visualizing the Windows Server 2016 instance. You would basically have the exact same functionality but with way more options like cloning and backing up the server.
No worries at all. I think the automatic defensiveness from Linux people comes from old misconceptions being repeated often. Or sometimes it comes from how something is read and interpreted. Someone might say "I can't switch because I need XYZ", to which a very literal response is "you can use ABC which does the same thing, so you can switch". When what the first person meant is "I can't switch because I prefer XYZ", which is a completely valid reason.
Right on, I'll have to check out proxmox, i don't have any experience with it yet. That'd be dope to switch at least one computer over to something linix based.