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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

But your people have proven again and again to be bigots

By not wanting to vote for centrists.

Or are you saying it is impossible to find a leftists old white man?

I'm saying it's impossible to find a progressive without a convenient excuse popping up for why they can't run.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If you honestly believe that the only reason Americans didn't vote for Harris was that she was too moderate, i don't know what to tell you man, that sounds almost utopic in my ears, but i just don't trust you people that much.

I believe that accounts for maybe 25% of the people who didn't vote for her, another 25% was racism, another 25% was sexism and the last 25% decided than an 80 year old war in Palestine suddenly should decide whether or not the fascists got control of the largest military in the world. Fucking dumb.

But maybe you have more correct polls for this, i am willing to be corrected.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If you honestly believe that the only reason Americans didn’t vote for Harris was that she was too moderate, i don’t know what to tell you man, that sounds almost utopic in my ears, but i just don’t trust you people that much.

Yeah, I get it. You think we're all sexists and therefore you dictate that women shouldn't be allowed to run for president.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Dictate 🤣 how tf can i dictate anything. I just strongly advice that you focus more on taking back your country from the Nazis before they destroy the fucking world, than you do on social inclusion of minority groups. You've tried it and it is costing the entire world heavily. Get your shit together.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Right. Exclude women because the most popular progressive is a woman and absolutely no other reason.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"absolutely no other reason" lol, what are you talking about. Literal fucking Nazis owning your government is the reason you fucking lunatic.

Let AOC become majority leader in the Senate for a few years, let the swing voters warm up to her (i am not saying to suppress her policies, she is badass), and meanwhile run a democratic candidate that they can vote for here and now.

The left needs to be vigilant, but it also needs to know where to apply the pressure. Trying to force AOC into the white house will result in another Republican victory.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

i am not saying to suppress her policies,

Uh huh.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah whatever, you believe what you want. Your country is going down the shitter, and your entire left wing is convinced that doing the same old thing will be better the next time. Fucking losers.

Leftism isn't all about skin color, sexuality and gender. It's about a living wage, affordable housing, free education for everyone, free healthcare, it's getting money out of politics, and most of all its about making those rich fuckers pay their fair share.

But noooo, let's all just keep talking about skin color, "when is it a womans turn to lead?!" While half your country is too bigoted to even consider it an option. Grow up.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Your country is going down the shitter, and your entire left wing is convinced that doing the same old thing will be better the next time.

The same old thing is a boring centrist.

Leftism isn’t all about skin color, sexuality and gender. It’s about a living wage, affordable housing, free education for everyone, free healthcare, it’s getting money out of politics, and most of all its about making those rich fuckers pay their fair share.

And AOC is the most likely candidate that typifies those positions. Hence why the party is willing to shut out all women just to stop her personally.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and she definitely needs to be president - one day. Not yet tho, now is not the time to push for ideals, now is the time to BEAT THE NAZIS! run who ever the fuck can actually get them out of office.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not yet tho, now is not the time to push for ideals

This sentence is how we got here.

now is the time to BEAT THE NAZIS!

By having no ideals!

run who ever the fuck can actually get them out of office.

this reads like "run another dull centrist again. Regardless of whether they can win. Again. We can always blame the left when we earn another loss. Again."

You are advocating for a lack of policy and just running as "well, at least we're second worst to the nazis. For now. And by as narrow a margin as we think we can get away with."

Again.

That loses.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Please don't run anoyher centrist.

Run someone leaning as far to the left as possible, while also being able to actually win.

Edit: it is like you people hear what you want to hear. I am in no way saying run with right leaning policies.

I am saying you need to present your politics in a way that your bigoted countrymen can follow. Let the same message come from an old white guy.