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[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 60 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

That cats should remain indoors. Pet cats kill approximately 2.4 billion birds in the US alone, not to mention all the other animals that they also kill. I love cats as much as the next guy but keep them indoors for the love of nature

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Plus, they are %99 less likely to get hit by a car or eaten by a coyote.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

also they just live longer.

outdoor cats average..what..5 years? Indoor cats can get to 20. a lucky few even more.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 3 points 14 hours ago
[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: leash laws for cats on non-private property. You can and should be able to take your cat for a walk, but you definitely shouldn't let those little murder machines out on their own.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 5 points 13 hours ago

I wouldnt say its a counter point. A cat on a leash is definitely fine. Its letting the cats roam freely that is the problem

[–] marzhall@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I have a take on this that I think no one will have fun with:

In my opinion there is no moral way to keep a cat as a pet.

Allowing cats to roam as they desire results in the aforementioned ecological damage. The opposite - keeping cats locked in a few thousand feet at best for twenty-odd years of life - is cruel.

As someone who was raised in the woods with outdoor cats and couldn't imagine keeping them inside - even though we lost two as I grew up - it's a circle I just can't square. So I figure that if and when I get cats, I'll dodge the question and adopt some older cats who were already raised inside and couldn't be trusted to go outside safely anyway.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That cats should remain indoors.

In my experience, humans do tend to prefer this policy but cats do not. Consequently, outdoor cats tend to be cats that are particularly good at getting outside in defiance of their owners' interests - either by physical escape or social manipulation.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Are the cats wanting to be outside, or are they just wanting to be away from you?

Cause I've never had a cat that wanted to be outside. Sit in a window and watch the world, yes, but as soon as you give them the ability they ran and hid.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Ive picked put my cat outside a few times just for her to run back to the door and want in. 4 cats in the house, and only once did one get out. It was a freak accident, dog started barking while i was opening the door and the no brain cell cat fled at the noise but instead of up the stairs like normal it ran out the freshly opened door. Took a couple days to get him back but now hes so scared of the front door.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

depends on your country. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7909512/

edit: sorry was talking with someone and realized that this isn't as clear as it should be. this isn't a 'moral that most don't agree with' in all countries. like the US.