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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Basically, .ml Tankies (I don't consider all .ml users to be Tankies just because they're a .ml users) are authoritarian ~~bootlickers~~ “communists” pretending not to be who routinely deny the human rights violations of the CCP/Russia and hold them up as the gold standard. They refuse to recognize China, Russia and even NK as being authortarian regimes or if they do, its OK/Neccessary because it takes down the west/capitalism. If you have a historical fact that puts any of those countries in a bad light, they’ll probably deny it happend or is just “western propganda.”

So they believe and spread things like the Russia narratives on Ukraine (When it happened they were parroting the whole “special military operation” thing, the current thing is that it was “just a diplomatic maneuver to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table”)

Hex and Grad are very in your face about it, but .ml tends to be more subtle, often opting instead to remove dissenting comments and ban users before letting threads get out of control. So, as a result many instances defed from those 2.

.ml is run by the head Lemmy devs who are, unfortunately, hardcore Tankies themselves and tend to enforce the Tankie mindset throughout with more subtlety through mod/admin action. Or allowing known propaganda outlets to fester

You can check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works if you want to see some documentation of their actions, words and censoring. What I've linked here is but a mere sampling of what's been collected there

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

New users, I recommend blocking this account in particular. This person is completely off the rails, and spends their time on Lemmy pushing debunked western propaganda.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yea, Western propaganda, like how Russia is just actually the good guys and was totally justified in invading Ukraine to stop the Nazis! Or maybe the "Banderists" or was it actually just a diplomatic maneuver?

I have lots of documented evidence on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works to support my stance on lemmy.ml, Tankies and the Tankie Triad, where's yours? Because the last time I replied to you with all my evidence you checked out and never replied

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

That’s not true. You’ve openly admitted you only accept corporate or western government sources. The same ones pushing the propaganda you like.

And if it’s an outlet that challenges your narrative, you say it’s not a legitimate source. So it’s this endless feedback loop of trying to prove CIA narratives with you pointing to either the government story, or the news laundering it, with this self-reinforcing nonsense.

No amount of linking to accounts from journalists on the ground or involved in negotiations, or CIA documents revealing hoaxes, has ever budged you an inch or convinced you to question your worldview. Evidence doesn’t work on astroturfers.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the classic CIA this and CIA that, sorry if I don't accept randosblog.blogspot.com or totallyalegitjournalist.substack.com anybody can start a blog and say whatever they want

How can one accept what you say when you glorify dictators, openly handwaved away "reeducation" camps, caught editing headlines to subtlety push aganda and allow known propaganda outlets and when someone says something about it, they're censored. Hell you guys even deny Taiwan as being a country and everyone against you is just some form of paid agent

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Jeffrey Sachs isn’t ‘just some rando blogger.’ And the State Dept and CIA have openly admitted they don’t have the evidence to back the claims you’re making (maybe you should join and share your info with them), and US documents & cables have been leaked backing China’s version of events you still deny.

But you believe MSNBC’s version more than firsthand accounts and leaked US cables.

Thank you for portraying the behavior I’ve accused you of directly in this thread. That’ll save people reading from having to go through your profile to see the madness.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I find it fascinating that at no point did you link or even mention him until now or "these leaked cables" and yet you still don't link anything. Almost as if you're banking on people not googling him or something and just believing you outright 🤔

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not at all. I’ve linked the same cables to you before, and you dismiss them. Once I get to a stopping point at work, I’ll come back with the links and previous comments. Or they can look them up on Wikileaks themselves.

I would love for people to look up what Jeffrey Sachs has to say on Ukraine. The guy has been on the ground investigating, and directly involved in negotiations. He is absolutely an authority on the subject.

[–] Konkyer@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

More completely made up anti-commie shit. It is not popular in any of those instances to think that Russia isn't a fascist fuckup of a government.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

LMAO tons of my official evidence posts link back to, not only the relevant thread, but to the modlog as well in addition to literal screenshots

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

^ This is the most accurate explanation. I was on .ml for quite a while before I realized the pattern that any time I criticized Russian attacks or war crimes, I got downvoted and brigaded. Any time I promoted Ukraines right to defend itself I got downvoted and brigaded. Often my posts were removed. Try to mention tienamen square there ;-). They will come troll threads on other instances from time to time too. I just block them these days and refuse to subscribe to any .ml communities.