Do you have a source for that? What % of the global meat consumption is actually necessary and what is just for pleasure? And don’t get me started on food waste…

what is required to continue existing as a species

Do you mean scale up as a species? We’ve existed for how many thousands of years in a sustainable way?

the distinctive categories of pets and livestock are an unfortunate requirement of our current situation

A requirement for what? You said we need animals to sustain ourselves. What do we need the distinction of pets for?

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ll pass.

You wanna share your opinion as it differs to mine, I’m happy to engage with that. But I am absolutely not interested in whatever tit for tat, nit-picky debate that wants to be.

I’m saying as long as the consumption of animals and animal products is part of the most viable means for satisfying the nutritional debt of the human species, the human psychological need to distinguish between pets and livestock is necessary.

Do we need, or is it right to keep pets? is its own set of moral questions.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We've had the capacity for feeding the entire population without animal products since before iron.

We've had the capacity to do so with an overabundance of calories that the population keeps growing larger since the Haber process was discovered.

Arguing that we should distinguish between animals and livestock until we can live without animal products is incredibly disingenuous.

Until A, no B doesn't work as an argument when you already have A.

Edit: I'm not the same person you were talking with before.