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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The guns are to prevent violent suppression of that public support.

That's one part of it, but also people should be defending themselves and their communities from ICE and one way to do that is guns. When an ICE agent is arresting your neighbor the correct option isn't to preach nonviolence, but to pull the damn trigger.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In practice, what I've seen people do is to use large crowds. I haven't yet seen any overt use of guns for that kind of defense.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago

This is great when it works and you have the numbers. But long term that is not a solution and not a solution all the time. A gun is a solution at all times. Get one before they don't let you.

If they are coming for you it's not a "misunderstanding". You wont be able to talk your way out of it by being nice and doing what they say. They are Nazis. They are taking you to a death camp.

They don't care if you're a citizen. They didn't care when it was a green card.

Stay in your home and defend it. Coordinate with your neighbors. Have one of them to call to bring additional resistance and pressure. But have a gun. Because when they break down your door. That's it.

Organizing with your community to protect each other is the best thing you can do. And part of that is making sure you are all prepared and armed.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Large crowds are awesome because if you kill one person in the crowd

The murderer is judged by a jury of his peers and sentenced then and there.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That's remarkably hard to do in any kind of reliable way. ICE snatches are fast, and the odds of being there with a gun and recognizing what's going on are low. The odds of shooting somebody by mistake are high.

To date things like handing out red cards has been far more effective

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ICE agents exist outside of ongoing raids. They sleep in beds and shop in stores.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And as federal employees their names and home offices are available through a FOIA request. At least for the time being

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago
[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 8 points 3 days ago

Damn right. “Please don’t arrest me, I was born here” depose.