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[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But that's just inconsistent with the state of of current scientific knowledge.

Being poor makes you less likely to make a long term decision, not the other way around. In societies where income varies from season to season, you literally have less smokers when the money situation is good and more when the situation is bad. Long story short fighting for survival is extremely cognitively tasking. Thinking and planing is, literally, harder if you burned those resources on "what to put on the table... today", problems.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OP is saying that of the people who are poor and uneducated, there is a small percentage that are fuckwits. Your description could be true for 95% of such people and it still wouldn't be inconsistent with OP's comment.

[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So... OP's "hot" take is "losers exist"?

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not just that they exist but that they are a fucking huge drain on society.

As much as Billionaires are a cancer and the world would be better without them, Jeff Bezos never smashed the window on my car to steal my speakers, he doesnt come out vandalising public transport or parks and he isnt the reason my wife doesnt feel safe walking around at night. Billionaires are the reason we dont get more nice things, these assholes are the reasons we cant keep the ones we have.

They also make any sort of socialistic change harder, because any time you try to help the "underprivileged" anyone who wants to oppose it can hold up one of these wastes of oxygen and use them as the spokesperson.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jeff Bezos never smashed the window on my car to steal my speakers,

True.

he doesnt come out vandalising public transport or parks and he isnt the reason my wife doesnt feel safe walking around at night.

If we could even comprehend the scale of his unpaid taxes, or their impact on our parks, we might discuss this at length...

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, thats what the very next sentence of my post was getting it.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's "losers", but yes. I'd phrase it as "not every poor and uneducated person deserves sympathy; it's not necessarily victim-blaming to refuse to accommodate such a person."

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank the both of you for summing up my point better than I did.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I'd love to take credit for the summary, JuxtaposedJaguar did the work.