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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no direct evidence vaping causes cancer.

The main components of vape juice are polyene glycol and vegetable glycerin. Both of which are completely benign and added into many every day products. And before vaping nicotine was a thing, it has been used as a safe drug delivery method for decades.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To say there's no direct evidence is disingenuous. Yes, there are no peer reviewed articles that directly correlate vaping and cancer chance, but guess what there also isn't? Studies that say they're safe

The reason for this is simple: there's about a 14 year delay between any smoking changes and lung cancer presenting itself. Extrapolate that to three trials, and you're looking at minimum 50 years before it can hit shelves

What is known about vapes is that they contain many of the same carcinogens found in cigarettes, which should be a red flag to most people

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is known about vapes is that they contain many of the same carcinogens found in cigarettes, which should be a red flag to most people

Not true at all. Vapes don't contain any known carcinogens.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

According to cancer.org.au

For example, propylene glycol and glycerine found in e-cigarettes when overheated can produce dangerous levels of the carcinogens formaldehyde and acetaldehyde.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And it was found the study ran the batteries in an unsafe manner, as in no one would use their vape like that because they had to go around the safeties.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

This is a blanket statement that doesn't really mean anything

  1. It is highly unlikely one study would do this (purposefully put their patients in danger)

  2. It is even more unlikely that this study would continue without being retracted

  3. It is unfathomably unlikely that all other studies on the matter would do the same thing and agree on the results

I guess the biggest problem here is that I never mentioned a specific study, and neither did you.

If you want a good report on the matter, check out: National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine; Health and Medicine Division; Board on Population Health and Public Health Practice; Committee on the Review of the Health Effects of Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems; Eaton DL, Kwan LY, Stratton K, editors. Public Health Consequences of E-Cigarettes. Washington (DC): National Academies Press (US); 2018 Jan 23. 5, Toxicology of E-Cigarette Constituents. Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507184/

An interesting exert from it is the following:

Compounds not listed on labels also have been identified in e-liquids. Several hazardous compounds have been found in liquids and in the heated aerosol produced by e-cigarettes, including formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, and acrolein, which are known carcinogenic toxicants.

Edit: ah yes, the classic "I can't think of any way to rebuke what they said so I'm just going to downvote them because I can't add anything meaningful to the discussion, but I'm still convinced I'm right"