All true. And yet sadly until mastodon or better say another fediverse instance do have algorithms and a brain dead stupid onboarding and hyper cool phone apps, that will not do for 99% of the people.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 9 points 23 hours ago

There will always be two types of users: people looking to connect and people looking to be entertained. Fedi is better at the former and commercial better at the latter.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was told something like this about an article I was pointing out wasn't on page 1 of google, but was on virtually all other engines. "Unless it's page 1 of google nobody cares"

And all I can say is "who cares? those aren't the people it's for"

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I agree, I do the same. But the second part of your reply « who cares those aren’t the guys », years and years watching the fediverse trying to kickstart the whole thing proves it wrong . We, fediverse users, do need those people onboard

[–] miguel@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

What "kickstart"? The fediverse isn't a commercial venture. If we can connect with our friends and interests, it's already "working". I find fantastic new people here all the time, doing really niche stuff I'd never find on a platform focused on appealing to everyone.

If "99%" of people aren't on it, that's perfectly acceptable, and just makes it easier for the ones on it to find and talk to their friends. I don't think we need or want the vast torrent of spammers, downvote bots, and "influencer" types who use whatever gives them clicks.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The mass protests against Threads leads me to believe that is actually the opposite of the truth.

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well that’s actually a great thing: many instances will defederate/block thread, some will federate. Freedom of choice

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok but that contradicts your previous comment

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

I don’t see why, it’s simple as much as I enjoy the fediverse ideology the current status of this part of internet show how little it is relevant the the vast majority of people. And yet it’s a good thing to allow both fediverse purists and ones that don’t care connecting with the « others » social networks live together.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It’s still worth it to red-pill people of the harms these algorithms cause and accept smaller network sizes that exclude people who refuse to “quit smoking” so to speak.