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[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Most people don't assume their partner is trying to train them like an animal,

Yeah..? I just... you seem to think there's a difference between:

"Hi~ We noticed you were sad, and we made you cupcakes! Hope you feel better!" and

"Hi~ We noticed you were sad, and we made you cupcakes! Hope you feel better! (dog version)"

And I just... I don't know what that is! I'm trying my hardest here, man.

Like, we're talking about decades of human history here. Birthdays, and Christmases, and tipping your waiter, and end of year bonuses, and letting your kids take one day of school off, and celebrations for getting a new job or getting a big sale, and taking your friend out to a fancy dinner cause you want them to know they're special, and peace offerings to some neighbor you've been feuding with—how is any of this less dog-like than what we're talking about? Why is this thing specifically so dangerous?

I don't often think that my birthday presents are a secret ploy to trick me into being happier—like, what are we talking about?

something as important as "and I talked to him about this" would be easy enough to add and clear up a whole lot.

Well, maybe next time she can hire you as her editor, then.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol comparing literal pavlovian training with getting a birthday present. You are either arguing very dishonestly or you just don't understand the concept of manipulation at all lol.

Also ignoring the fact that in your example of cupcakes they actually talked about noticing how you felt and the reason why they gave you the cupcake. You get that right? You get how a dog can't do those things right? Dogs can't talk.

I get you're trying your hardest, and I'm sure you are. Some people just can't grasp basic logic, it's a real problem these days. I tried to explain it multiple different way, but you can't make someone understand something, sometimes you just gotta give up and move on.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

in your example of cupcakes they actually talked about noticing how you felt and the reason why they gave you the cupcake.

But that's... what she's doing! That's what the m&m's are for!

Pavlovian conditioning doesn't just happen in a lab, dude. When your phone buzzes and you get that pang of excitement that someone may have just messaged you, that's conditioning! Your phone has nefariously manipulated you into being excited at random times, at its sole discretion, and for what might be, like, a pizza ad or something.