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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But how do you get the crewed aircraft to hold still long enough?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think we are going to be getting to a point where signal jamming is going to become a more critical part of warfare. A military base isn't going to allow any kind of transmission to occur nearby in order to protect itself.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is why laser targeting is a thing. Cant jam a laser beam.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

fiber optic drones (spool of fiber optic cable gets video signal from drone, and sends commands) is unjammable.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago

Great way to paint yourself

[–] guy@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

smoke barriers has entered the discussion

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

slight breeze counters your defence

[–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What about those smoke machines from discos? Just put 5% of the military budget into permanent smoke generators. And of course additionally 2% for speakers to create a creepy ambiance

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

So THAT'S why the war simulator games from the early 2000s had all those fog of war simulations going! It wasn't rendering distance capabilities at all!

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Drones could act as automated movable flack. Just get a bunch to get near the flight path and explode. There are definitely drones with a range way over 1 mile.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Or put some pieces of high-carbon steel/titanium on the drone and just let them get sucked into the intake.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The range needed could be 30.000 feet ...

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the US arguably lost the VN war because they kept expecting the VK to fight like the US

why would you try to counter the jet at 30k feet?

a jet takes so long to build and so much to maintain the supply chain is super vulnerable

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Making a cloud of drone flak is very cheap and easy and can take out multiple types of threats. They talk to each other and act as a redundant pinpoint targeting system.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Boom a cheap EMP blast takes out all your 700 drones.

It's a never ending battle.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But that EMP blast also destroys any electronic hardware (radios, NVG, etc) that your good guys have on them as well

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Puts more mylar in plane.

The battle continues.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Faraday cages on the drones electronics. Battle continues

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bigger more expensive EMP burns through your more expensive MYLAR caged drones.

Battle continues.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bigger faraday cage and larger battery

Battle continues

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The drones are now the size of the fighter jets 🤔

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The fighter jets now have to get more EMP protection too, and are gitting bigger.

The fight continues

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

what kind of up time do they have

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I imagine a drone built for this could be an hour or two as some return to charge periodically on specific areas under protection.