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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

So.....those of you who have lived though things like this, realistically what can an individual do?

Im talking beyond voting. Stock up on things? Get to know all my neighbors?

Because of an earlier Executive order, ICE (and related law enforcement) no longer needs to have a warrant. Now we are talking about militarizing local police forces. What happens if my family and I get disappeared?

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 37 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Many Germans were wondering the same thing nearly a hundred years ago.

Some of them decided to move while they still had the chance. You could say it’s traditional to move across the ocean if your country becomes a totalitarian dictatorship. The other options aren’t that nice though. Once the system falls apart you could be judged for just going with the flow.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Where can Americans even go? It’s not like immigrating is easy, most of us can’t afford it and Western Europe is no guarantee considering vlad is breathing down their neck

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Plenty of places for Americans to go, but they have to give up some of their luxuries and entitlement.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you face:

  • danger of torture
  • risk to your life
  • risk of cruel and unusual treatment or punishment

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/asylum/in-canada/eligibility.html

If you enter Canada from the U.S.
[...]
Your claim may not be eligible if you entered Canada from the U.S.:

  • at an official land border crossing
    or
  • anywhere along the border, including rivers, lakes and other waterways, and made a refugee claim less than 14 days after the day that you entered
[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Those are some pretty interesting conditions. Sounds like in order to make this work, you shouldn’t enter through an official land border crossing. Instead, you should enter through other means (plane, ship, rocket), but you should also just chill out as a tourist for two weeks before making a refugee claim. Makes me wonder what’s the rationale behind this.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, I don't quite get it myself. The only thing I can think of is that it might be designed for American citizens living abroad, but I can't quite figure out why there either.

Maybe it's just being onerous enough to discourage all but the most serious attempts.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Canada and some European countries have accepted refugees from the US but from what I've read it's incredibly rare and requires and extraordinary amount of proof that your life is under threat and you have no other choice than to move to those countries.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Occasionally, I watch some queer videos on YT, just to see how they see the world from their perspective. Recently, the tone has shifted and some are even advising other people to go back into the closet. Especially gender minorities appear to be afraid of what’s going on these days. Maybe someone in that category could convincingly claim that their life is in danger. I wonder if it also applies to gay people.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Gay and transgender people are the only cases I've heard of people being accepted as refugees from the United States in Canada

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 1 points 11 hours ago

It’s actually happening then. Reading 1930s history keeps on getting more and more relevant each day.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd imagine that's because of the STCA, but there seems to be a loophole where it doesn't apply if you enter via water and don't claim refugee status before 14 days.

If I were really determined, I'd at least ask an immigration lawyer about it, and then I'd plan on taking a 2 week camping trip in Canada when I thought shit was likely to go down.

Come to South Australia!

[–] albert180@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Vlad can't do shit in Western Europe. The bigger danger are our own right wing assholes pushed by Russia, American owned (social) media and TikTok

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