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I get it. I too want this entire administration to burn, but at the same time, Perdue was a sitting Senator. A co-worker. Almost normal compared to Bondi or RFK Jr.
And this isn't a cabinet member. It's not like Perdue is going to make any real progress with China on anything.
China isn't budging on shit.
Democrats reject this guy, a worse candidate is put forward next. Seems like a stupid hill to die on. They're going to appoint somebody.
Edit: I didn't know he'd be confirmed anyway. If true, then I agree a Democratic rejection out of principle would have been a better statement.
Technically, if the Democrats reject this guy he still gets confirmed. If every Democrat, Independent, and also 3 Republicans reject this guy, he still gets confirmed. As was the case with Pete Hegseth, whom is way worse than Purdue in every way.
That detail I didn't know. If there was a chance to act on principle here I agree. Why not?
No, they're not. What happened to Obama's scotus pick proves you can gum up this process and prevent appointments. And you can do it without losing voters.
Democrats are choosing to aide the trump admin.
The senate rules changed, if I remember correctly in 2013 and 2017, so that presidential appointments and scotus judges could not be filibustered. A simple majority can change the rules for the next congress and the majority party is Republican and the next congress will either be a Democrat majority or it will be a full on dictatorship.
Nobody is voting for another year and a half. And hardly anyone for another three and a half years. Democrats need to pick the battles that matter.
And by an astounding coincidence, none do.
Plenty do. There is another budget vote in less than half a year.
Oh cool. Like the continuing resolution they caved on.
Cynicism like this is why humanity is doomed. Or am I misreading you and you actually think things can (if not will) get better?
They didn't betray you when they sided with trump.
I don't follow.
When democrats caved and voted for trump's continuing resolution, they betrayed the left. They didn't betray you.
I am on the left though... 🙃
I agree that they shouldn't have caved. That's a different matter to OC. One appointee, and one that has a history of being less insane.
Is also a different matter to OC. But you brought it up and I responded to that. Now you suddenly want to constrain the topic to where we can't talk about the thing you brought up?
I meant they shouldn't have caved, and hopefully they don't next time. I'm with you.
Empty optimism like yours which keeps the masses docile is why humanity is doomed.
What are you actually trying to say the solution is?
what are you saying the solution is? more of the same?
Not at all. I made a very specific critique of this moment.
I probably want what you do. I mean name a few changes or events that would make your day. That you think have a chance of happening if people do the right thing.
Let me get this clearly: because if they fight back, maga will be even nastier, so Dems did the right thing to save us from a worse outcome?
Well fuck me, I've been at unfair to them. I owe them an apology.
That's not what I said. There are better ways to fight.
Fight the turly terrible candidate choices, not the ones who you might actually have a chance of working productively with.
Chuck Schumer is abysmal and needs to step down, and he was wrong about the budget. But the essence of his argument has some truth - politics is a two-way street. In the rare case where there is a possibility of cooperation, that sets a better standard and will likely be more effective than endless partisanship.
Things centrists never say about progressives. Because centrists only have intentions of working with their republican buddies to accomplish their mutual goals.
I think you're being understandably but uncessarily cynical for the purposes of this conversation.
I proudly call myself a far-leftist. Even a "woke" one. But victory for the ideals that drive us will not come from endless othering of those who we disagree with. Perfect is the enemy of the good, so the saying goes. I would say it's now the enemy of even just a little bit better as opposed to so much worse.
With that being said, we should never compromise on expressing what we actually believe. I want universal basic income, guaranteed minimum income according to a livable wage, weath taxes, and much more aggressive income taxation of the 1% and 0.1%. I want universal healthcare, open borders, and end to private prisons. But fuck me if I won't vote to make what social security we do have just a little bit better.
As politicians and lawmakers, we need to be the bigger party in the room that doesn't stoop to their level.
I know right now things demand radical defence of democracy, but that doesn't happen by politicians giving up what little power and platform they might have. They can go to work when they're not out on the streets with the protestors.
Every time I think I'm too cynical, democrats prove me wrong. They don't get to come back from supporting a genocide.
But?
Oh yeah. Wouldn't want to other those people who carry swastika flags and chant "Jews will not replace us" after all, they're the only demographic that matters to the democratic party, and they're willing to throw all of us under the bus for a 1% chance at getting a single nazi vote. You're bus fodder just like me and don't you forget it. The femtosecond republicans express the slightest displeasure at your existence, you'll be under the bus with all the disposables you don't consider worth defending because it might other some contemptible nazi.
With every betrayal, democrats converge on expressing what they actually believe.
There is no major party that does not fight against everything you claim to stand for here.
We're dealing with nazis. You don't win over nazis by appeasement. You don't win them over with magnanimity. They do not want to parlay. They want you dead.
Then maybe they should stop giving up whatever power they have every time they have the opportunity to do so.
Someone has to be ambassador to China.
It's probably going to be someone most on the left so not want.
So you choose the one that you can stomach while you have a vote.
Just to note, but even Republicans stonewalled every confirmation.